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    Huge,
    Good for you. I like the way you are aiming for a real goal.
    The number one thing to help you get to your goal is buying well, and then buying as often as you can.
    You need to buy primarily for capital growth, but at todays interest rates every property you buy should be at least cashflow neutral, if not positively geared.
    Your biggest challenge will getting access to debt, so work hard at keeping your taxable income as high as you can.

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    Luke,

    I would suggest you need resist the temptation to trade your 1st property. Property is medium to long game at best.
    It’s an asset, it’s not costing you anything to hold it and your properly selling at the wrong time in the market cycle for West Melbourne. You can be assured that you haven’t been ripped off because of the market appraisals show you are at best break even. Double check you are claiming depreciation, sit tight, and one day you will be pleased you didn’t sell it.

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    We stopped buying in Sydney in 2012 when we saw the market begin to move, since then our Sydney clients have enjoyed 17%, 16% & 18% p.a capital growth year on year. For example a client investing in a $500k property in 2012 has made over $250k capital growth as well as being positively geared after tax from day one.
    Feel free to check out my website at yes.com.au

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    Hi property experts!

    Wanting to invest in Sydney – currently I have around $65,000 deposit so only have a 20% deposit for something around $325,000 so looking in Sydney’s west for a 2 bedroom unit…any suggestions of areas with good growth + good rent? Have also considered going for a larger loan amount but have been told by a broker that my LMI could be around $20,000.

    Thanks all :)

    Liana, the time to invest in Sydney has passed. We stopped buying there 3 years ago and those clients have had three very good to great years of capital growth so far. If you get in now you COULD see 5-7 years of flat growth or even negative which happened post the 2003 and the 1992 market tops in Sydney. Property markets go up in cycles, then they sit flat for a period.

    The market that is about to boom is Brisbane and more so to the north of the Brisbane CBD where there is a new train line and a ton of population growth.

    Good luck and happy investing. If I can be of help let me know, my details are below

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    Keith,
    I would suggest you stay away from south of the Brisbane CBD. There is way to much supply in the market and reduced longterm potential for capital growth.

    Morayfield has better potential but I would recommend heading closer to Brisbane to pickup the commuter tenants.

    Northlakes is 30 minutes drive into Brisbane CBD and will be 25 minute commute by train next year. The area is about to go off with very strong buyer demand. The days on market have plummeted and the prices are set to takeoff.

    We have bought over 100 properties in the area for clients over the last two years. This area has the new train line being built, with stations opening next year. Westfield have recently redeveloped their shopping centre, both Costco and Ikea are building stores in the area.

    We are seeing 7-8% capital growth between the purchase of the land and the completion of a house with tenants moving in 26 weeks later. Rents are rising too, So I can’t recommend the area highly enough. If you would like a full cash-flow analysis on a 4 bedroom house in Northlakes message me your name and email address. My number is below.

    Remember: Capital growth precedes cash flow

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    Rob,

    before you get too addicted to positive cash flow properties look hard at the capital growth drivers in the market. Here are a set of rules on investing that I have been working on. Over the years I have asked many investors what they did that was so successful?

    This set of rules come from those answers;

    Rule 1: Preserve your capital.
    Avoid high-risk high-return investments, only ever risk your return. Preservation of capital is the number one rule in investing; in the worst-case scenario you should always be in a position to recoup your initial capital investment. Losing your capital is equal to losing years off your life.

    Rule 2: Avoid being a forced seller.
    Being forced to trade at the wrong time in the market cycle is a wealth killer. Avoiding being forced to market in property investing normally means keeping your loan-to-value-ratios conservative. The older you are the lower the ratios need to be.

    Rule 3: Capital growth creates wealth.
    Capital growth creates future cashflow. Target high growth areas for long-term capital growth in your property portfolio. Capital growth creates wealth; the purpose of the early cash flow is to maintain debt while your portfolio is in growth phase.

    Rule 4: Buy when the markets selling, sell when the markets buying.
    This means don’t buy at the top of the market cycle and buy when the property market in targeted area is unloved by buyers. Follow this rule and you will always come out on top.

    Rule 5: In the end money & time end up being the same thing.
    Time is your most important asset. Make long-term investments and disregard the bumps in the road along the way. Losing your capital is equal to losing years off your investing life. Resist the desire to trade.

    Rule 6: Use leverage and keep your cash for a rainy day.
    If you have the choice between investing with cash or with debt, preserve your cash and invest with debt.

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    Looks like it’s pretty high at 2.97%

    http://www.realestateinvestar.com.au/Property/st+marys

    There is a rental population of 43.91% though, so a lot of renters out there it seems.

    The is no way investing a area with 43.91% renters is a good capital growth proposition, that is unless there is a major change planned for the suburb at a state government level.

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    I think this concept is designed for only one winner and it’s not the guy buying in.

    If there is clearly a “Greed Button” being pushed by the seller then buyer beware!

    Assumptions that sound all-good on paper usually come back to bite the buyer, long after the seller is gone.

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    When you think about the concept behind a master plan estate, it’s clear that there must be some uplift in values going forward to make it worth it from both the developer’s and the early investor’s view point. 30% of those early sales are going to be investors who play this game time in and time out. This is the time you will also find builders building spec homes too because they see how it works first hand.

    In a 10 stage subdivision you will often see the purchase land valuations on the stage releases come in a bit short, however we find that by the time of build completion in 5-6 months our clients are getting as much as 7-8% capital growth on their finished valuations. Not a bad outcome?

    If the master plan estate is part of a real change in the area this capital growth can go on for many years. In fact we have charted some areas with double digit growth for up to 8 years after purchasing and building in a master plan estate.

    At the end of the day it’s all in the Due Diligence. Capital growth precedes cashflow!

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    Rents must follow? They aren’t pegged together mate.

    Very correct. Rents in general terms average CPI + 2%. This can be seen when looking at the poor yields of the blue chip areas.

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    Hi all,
    I’m looking at investing around the areas within St Marys, Penrith, Werrington.

    The current vacancy rate for St Marys is apparently 3.09% (http://www.realestateinvestar.com.au/Property/st+marys), higher than both Penrith and Werrington which sits at 2.41% and 2.22%.

    Looking at these % rates, should I be worried of not being able to find a tenant quickly (especially in St Marys)?

    Thanks in advance!

    The time to be buying into western Sydney was 2 years ago, if you buying in now you are getting in at the top of the price cycle.
    You need to careful if this is what you actually want to do. Often values soften in the years after the market tops and if you need to trade you could get caught with negative equity. This has happen to a lot of people buying into Sydney post 1992 and post 2003. In some cases post the market reaching it’s top in 2003 values did increase above purchase levels until 2011-2012. That can be a long time to wait if you need to get out.

    PM me for an article I wrote for Your Investment Property magazine on how to select future growth areas to invest into.

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    Swift,

    How did you go? what did you end up doing?

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    Capital growth is king! Always target capital growth as your primary goal, yield should be your secondary goal. At todays interest rates you should be positively geared after tax, this is an important point when looking for an investment property. Everything we are buying with 100% debt (borrowing the 20% deposit included) is positively geared after tax.

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    My first thought is buying with a 20% deposit reduces your risk and that is the most important thing to set out to do when investing above all else you need to preserve your investment capital and reducing your default risk with a 20% deposit does just that.

    If you would like to reduce your risk further you could rent it out instead of living in it. Why you ask? Because the bank looks at part of the rent (80%<>) as though it is your income (almost yours) as a result you will increase your borrowing capacity for your next purchase. But thats not all, generally speaking renting is cheaper then then owning, so you will have more surplus income to keep on saving for your next investment property or PPoR.

    I would also expect that at todays interest rates the apartment should be positively geared after tax, or you are pay to much.

    I hope this helps.

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    Creating a good team is way harder then it may look.
    Mortgage Brokers
    Not all mortgage brokers are created equal, look for an independent broker firstly. Then look for one who owns their own business and has staff. One man bands can be very erratic! Look for one that is a property investor themselves (harder to find then you may think). I have one that fits the bill, PM me if you would like his details.

    Conveyancer
    In all the 20 years and 140 plus transactions I have done personally, it wasn’t until 11 years ago I found a really, really good NSW conveyancer. It’s basically the only thing they do. You will need to ask around and trial a few as you go along.

    Lawyer
    Once again, a good lawyer is a big help. If you can find a lawyer that will just charge for miscellaneous calls and quick bit of advice that would be very helpful. Sometimes they can take themselves a bit too seriously with their billing, which is a shame.

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    WOW, thats a great prize. Bugger about the $30,000 debt, thats the elephant in the room. While you are wasting $1000 per month on interest and only saving $1500 per month your not getting ahead.

    If I was you I would sell the new car ASAP and don’t buy another car until you have bought a house or an investment property. If you do buy another car, pay cash for it.

    As far as your question should I Purchase a Principal Place of Residence or Invest First?

    The age old question: “Should I buy a principal place of residence first and invest later or should I invest in property first, rent and buy later?”

    In order to make some sense of this question we will conduct a comparison on the following basis:
    1. Analysis conducted over a 10 year period.
    2. Capital Growth for both Investing and the Principal Place of Residence is calculated at 5% p.a.
    3. The income of the purchaser is $80,000 per annum
    4. The purchser has $130,000 in cash savings for the transactions
    5. The base cost of the Principal place of residence and the investment properties is $420,000 in year 1, then increasing by 5% p.a. (compounding) each year after that).
    6. Rental Income is 5.2% of the portfolio value (gross)
    7. The maximum loan to value Ratio across the portfolio is 80%
    8. Interest Rate of 5% p.a. on all loans taken out for PPOR and Investment loans
    9. Purchaser has a goal of achieving $1,500 per week income from their portfolio in 10 years (after all expenses and tax are taken into account)
    10. Cashflows in each scenario include expenses for either rent or mortgage interest repayments and household expenses (rates and maintenance)

    Example:

    Scenario 1 – Buying PPOR and then Investing
    Purchase Years
    Purchase Year – Purchase Price – Number of Props Purchased – Type Of Purchase
    1 – $420,000 – 1 – PPOR
    5 – $510,513 – 1 – Investment
    6 – $536,038 – 1 – Investment
    8 – $590,582 – 1 – Investment
    9 – $620,531 – 1 – Investment
    10 – $651,558 – 1 – Investment

    After 10 years in running this scenario, the outcomes are as follows:

    Portfolio Value – $4,661,503
    Cumulative Debt – $3,668,078
    Cumulative Expenses – $219,758
    Net Equity (After Expenses) – $606,541
    Loan to Value – 79.39%
    Net Cash-flow After Tax – -$17,129

    Example:

    Scenario 2 – Investing and Renting First
    Purchase Year – Purchase Price – Number of Props Purchased – Type Of Purchase
    1 – $420,000 – 1 – Investment
    2 – $441,000 – 1 – Investment
    4 – $486,203 – 1 – Investment
    5 – $510,213 – 1 – Investment
    6 – $536,038 – 1 – Investment
    7 – $562,840 – 1 – Investment
    8 – $590,582 – 2 – Investment

    After 10 years in running this scenario, the outcomes are as follows:

    Portfolio Value – $6,515,579
    Cumulative Debt – $4,961,299
    Cumuative Expenses – $130,000
    Net Equity (After Expenses) – $1,424,280
    Loan to Value Ratio of Portfolio – 76.15%
    Net Cash-flow After Tax – $3,435

    In summary, by investing in property first based on the variables mentioned above being identical in both scenario’s, you would in fact be $817,739 better off from an equity perspective (Total assets less total debt) and $20,564 per year at year 10 better off from a net cashflow perspective as well as $89,758 better off from an expense/cost of living perspective over the 10 year period. This of course would put the example purchaser here well on their way to achieving their financial goal of $1,500 per week income after all expenses and tax have been taken into account and then give them a greater choice as to where they would buy their principal place of residence if that’s what they wanted to do.

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    Dave Ward co wrote an article for anybody wanting more information on how to use research to drive your property search should look at this months issue of Your Investment Property magazine. Pages 54, 55, 56 & 57.

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    Equity, It’s really is the magic ingredient that makes growing a portfolio possible, without growth in a property’s value there is no wealth being created.
    Without growth in equity our only hope to buy the next property is to save every cent for next property purchase deposit or worse, having to sell one to buy another.

    Luckily, equity is a very simple concept to grasp. At its most basic it simply means the amount a property is worth minus the amount owed on it.
    However, not all the equity can be used because generally banks will only loan 80% of a property’s value, just in case it loses value. So the ‘useable equity’ is the amount the property is worth minus 20% and then minus the amount still owing.

    Case Study

    The sample property is valued at $450,000, the owner has a mortgage balance of $220,000 owing.

    Owner’s equity: The property’s value $450,000 minus mortgage ($220,000) = $230,000

    Useable equity: The property’s value $450,000 minus bank’s 20% ($90,000) = $360,000

    Borrowing capacity: $450,000 (property’s value) minus $90,000 (bank’s 20%) = $360,000 (useable equity) minus $220,000 (mortgage balance) = $140,000

    Leaves us with an accessible equity of $140,000 (the amount you can borrow)

    Leaves us with an actual owner’s equity of $230,000 (the amount you will receive from the proceeds of a sale*)
    Why is it so important?

    This accessible equity can be used as a deposit on an investment property. The equity can be used to put down a deposit on your next investment property, to cover legal costs and stamp duty.

    Accessing your equity

    The most straightforward way to setup your debt is to us a loan called a Line-Of-Credit. This keeps the debt secured to just one property, but you can take the cash from the Line-Of-Credit to put down as your deposit on your next purchase.
    At settlement the new mortgage is drawn down to cover the remaining cost of the property purchase.
    And the process just keeps working. The faster a property increases in value the sooner the equity can be accessed to purchase another property. This rise in value is the golden egg that all property investors are looking for.

    Equity can be generated by both an increase in the market value of the property and through a decrease in the amount owed on the mortgage.

    * less selling costs, etc.

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    If you go to your local council website, look there for the usage zoning maps. These will be coloured over areas to show you the usage for your area. The LEP (local Environmental Plan) will then tell you all the things you can and can’t do in that area.

    It is quite simple to work it all out by using the maps. Access to the public car park will be the least of your issues.

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    Build your relationships with agents.

    As buyer’s agents we get calls from our buyer’s agents who have found interesting opportunities around the country. They give us the heads up on properties and we do the same for them.

    Buying 300-400 investment properties per year would be undo-able without a network of agents sharing their knowledge with us.

    About 30% of the data we collect is research that comes from one on one calls with real estate agents located in the areas being researched, we then collate and analysis those results to substantiate our findings.

    As a property investor you cannot under estimate your need to build relationships with real estate agents.

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