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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 02:18:28 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government and RBA will try to support pricing, possibly offering stimulus and&nbsp;definitely using IRs as a blunt tool, to help the balance sheets of the big 4. No one wants to see an Ozzie bank go down, so their integrity will be defended as much as possible.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 00:10:25 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freckle &#8211; who is holding the bag now is very important to how it unfolds in Australia, I believe. From what I understand, the greater majority of IPs are held by those currently in the 55-65 range. NG has been their friend but now this age group is starring down the barrel of retirement (forcibly in some cases).</p>
<p>Stock on the market is going to&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-261042"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/54/#post-4549499" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:57:53 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2007 was kind of the national peak. 2008 shaved a bit off the top. The Rudd handouts and FHOG boost (probably more to help his wife with her investment property than anything else:)) only served to get prices back to the peak by 2009/2010. Since 2010 the market has not been healthy but it is only really this year that concern seems to be becoming&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-261041"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/54/#post-4549498" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum Seems to me the simple</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:50:56 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me the simple version of what Freckle and Simple are posting is something like:</p>
<p>The Oz government is fine and not carrying the debt levels of somewhere like the US. Private debt is pretty bad (mostly corporate and individual household debt). This debt is owed outside of Australia.</p>
<p>The question Simple poses is can the debt be ridden out&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-144981"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/54/#post-4549497" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum Hey all - long time no post.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 03:04:05 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all &#8211; long time no post.</p>
<p>It does look very much like stagnation at this stage. Japan in the 90s = Australia in the 2010s</p>
<p>This means, though, if you haven&#039;t entered the market, saving is a better option than buying. If you are in the market, selling will be subdued for quite some time.</p>
<p>The test is still going to be BB retirements &#8211; no income&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-166427"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/53/#post-4549478" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum http://www.smh.com.au/busines</title>
				<link>https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/47/#post-4549358</link>
				<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 12:11:20 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/business/property/nation-of-lossmaking-landlords-20120430-1xuh4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/business/property/nation-of-lossmaking-landlords-20120430-1xuh4.html</a>been saying it for years &#8211; you can&#039;t NG when you don&#039;t have an income. It&#039;s going to get worse on bad without someone throwing money at it and, here&#039;s the kicker, no-one has any money left to throw.Wether Australia has had the luckiest or unluckiest housing&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-119617"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/47/#post-4549358" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 13:22:58 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The market isn&#039;t picking up without another cash injection.</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum It will be alive and kicking</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:04:11 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be alive and kicking until the ineviatable return to long term price vs wage ratios are again met:)</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property price range in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:00:56 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie M wrote:<br />
They should submit all offers &#8211; in reality they don&#039;t.  Cheers  Jamie</p>
<p>So is there a way to bring a REA to task if you suspect they don&#039;t submit an offer?</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:27:46 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xdrew wrote:</p>
<p>ummester wrote:<br />
Yes, you can sell your peas if there is demand and funded customers. Pretty hard to move them if the cutomers can&#039;t pay.</p>
<p>Welcome to the market cycle. You see &#8230; if they arent paying &#8230;.. you dont fill places. If you dont fill places you REDUCE your rents to a level where the place will be filled. So if the rents&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-264130"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/43/#post-4549275" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:16:04 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xdrew wrote:</p>
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Well, it&#039;s 2012 now. Let&#039;s see what happens. I think, of all things that could happen, growth like has been seen for the last 15 odd years (that property doubles every 7 years tripe) is the least likely. Flat is a safe bet because it also covers little bits up and down if spun correctly. Down 15% or more is a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-264129"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/43/#post-4549272" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum Many bears who did their</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 07:23:30 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many bears who did their maths thought it was time for the Ozzie market to correct in 2008 &#8211; and without the Ruddprime stimulus it likely would have been. It&#039;s amazing how some extra LVR propped up the bottom of the market and allowed it to grow.Oddly, at the time bears were preaching their stuff in 2008, there were some bulls running around on b&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-225377"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/42/#post-4549254" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Brisbane house price growth 1979-2011 in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:34:38 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This graph (though a real index and not logarithmic) represents Ozzie property prices more as I have come to understand them.<a href="http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Long-run-mortgage-rate-and-price-index.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Long-run-mortgage-rate-and-price-index.png</a>I think a graph like this starts to get really interesting when you plot rental returns, wages and inflation against it&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-16530"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405382-brisbane-house-price-growth-1979-2011/#post-4660172" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Brisbane house price growth 1979-2011 in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:21:34 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen this?<a href="http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6A1FD147A45EF50D" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6A1FD147A45EF50D</a>That said, I was under the impression most Ozzie property had grown by 3-5% PA (on average) from the 50s through to the 90s (give or take) and, after that time it took off and grew around 7-10% PA (on average) until 2005-2007 (state dependant). So, even on a log scale,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-16529"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405382-brisbane-house-price-growth-1979-2011/#post-4660171" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Brisbane house price growth 1979-2011 in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 06:19:48 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the growth above the 250k line at the same scale as that below?</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Interest rates in perspective in the forum Andrew_A wrote:
A longer</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 08:32:07 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew_A wrote:<br />
A longer term chart of rates from the 1990&#039;s to place things in perspective. Rates will go up and down what remains is how you take action and advantage of the market that exists at the moment!<img src="http://www.allenrealestate.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/interest-rates-longer-term.png" alt="Interest rates" title="Interest rates" width="491" height="269" /></p>
<p>Yea, until they go up again:)Last 20 years the av has been around 6%.Long term, it&#039;s around 8%.</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Time to ponder? in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 06:45:59 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pauk wrote:<br />
I see the party is going to move of capping rents. About time&#8230;.<a href="http://www.apimagazine.com.au/api-online/news/2011/12/why-capping-rents-would-be-disastrous" rel="nofollow">http://www.apimagazine.com.au/api-online/news/2011/12/why-capping-rents-would-be-disastrous</a></p>
<p>Not sure if rent caps are a good idea &#8211; seriously, they might restrict growth outside of the capital cities. However, rent caps in conjuction with a phasing out of NG and CG tax&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-271164"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405232-time-to-ponder/page/3/#post-4659155" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Time to ponder? in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 07:09:17 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DWolfe wrote:<br />
Hey FWord&#8230;&#8230;I have to say&#8230;&#8230;. I&#039;m not pitying our kids&#8230;<img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/blush.gif?x75824" alt="" />They don&#039;t have to head off to a war, they wont starve on a boat headed here, they won&#039;t know abject poverty (hopefully), they will have the right to freedom and voting and equality, etc. </p>
<p>Don&#039;t be so sure.Last time the global economy was this messed up it led to war.I&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-271161"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405232-time-to-ponder/page/3/#post-4659152" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Time to ponder? in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:43:37 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think those moving into retirement would be very worried about their super and, for a great many of them (as boomers and jones are the most property rich), property values.I think those who are long since retired are more worried about government support for the aged.Bubble or no, I reject the notion that Australian&#039;s love their houses, or the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-261391"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405232-time-to-ponder/page/2/#post-4659142" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Time to ponder? in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:04:20 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we have an emotionally sustained property bubble?Do Australians love their houses more than anywhere else in the world?It&#039;s like I said a few posts earlier &#8211; it really is different here, we are more full of it.Anyways, if they aren&#039;t going to move until they die, what do they really care what it&#039;s worth? It&#039;s not like they can take the value of&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-261389"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405232-time-to-ponder/page/2/#post-4659140" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Time to ponder? in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:13:53 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d be happy with 4 x average wage (68k or so) as the median house price country wide (270k or so).Anti speculation laws may help but I&#039;m still placing money on the thing correcting because of it&#039;s own debt burden.Thing is, bottom end prices are still expensive compared to middle/upper prices. It&#039;s like every Australian is convinced that whatever&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-135503"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405232-time-to-ponder/#post-4659124" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Time to ponder? in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:38:58 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fword, I get how you are saying land is unique and mass produced consumer goods are not but1) Why is land in Australia still worth more than land in America, or Ireland, or so on?2) Why is food so cheap? Each carrot that grows is unique to the next. Why does no-one care about a carrots uniqueness?3) Why is labour so cheap in many markets? Each&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-135500"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405232-time-to-ponder/#post-4659121" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Time to ponder? in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:10:51 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fWord wrote:<br />
Since when was this ever a &#039;goal&#039;? People set out to make life easier and better for themselves, NOT make life miserable for everybody else. Don&#039;t develop a complex here.</p>
<p>Flipside is, the easier the lives of people around you are, the easier yours will also become.Imagine where everyone just worked a single job to afford their&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-135491"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405232-time-to-ponder/#post-4659112" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Shud I buy now, or Rent till next year, and hold off in the forum Help Needed!</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 06:42:03 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xdrew wrote:<br />
The market HAS bottomed .. and before it starts up again its going to need a supply of people able to get loans. IF as predicted the credit markets overseas seize up .. then even with cash, equity and baseball cards .. you wont be able to pick up a loan from the banks for love or money. That&#039;ll plug the flow of cheap money. And as&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-88107"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405270-shud-i-buy-now-or-rent-till-next-year-and-hold-off/#post-4659409" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Shud I buy now, or Rent till next year, and hold off in the forum Help Needed!</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 01:19:16 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Papers post whatever sells.If doom and gloom is selling &#8211; tey&#039;ll post that. If rising house values are selling, they&#039;ll post that. It is however a kind of positive feedback loop. Papers sell based on what the public wants to read and they read what the papers post. So bad news generates bad vibes which generate bad news and vica versa.To the OPs&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-88103"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405270-shud-i-buy-now-or-rent-till-next-year-and-hold-off/#post-4659405" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic The steps to watch for in the coming Australian housing correction in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 01:07:24 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fWord wrote:</p>
<p>ummester wrote:<br />
Your in now, make the most of it. Trying to get out could actually turn out worse. If you have your finances in order, you should be fine.</p>
<p>Interesting that we mention getting out of the market. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. However, I&#039;ve planned not to get out of my properties for at&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-266134"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4403251-the-steps-to-watch-for-in-the-coming-australian-housing-correction/page/12/#post-4645254" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic The steps to watch for in the coming Australian housing correction in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:49:55 +0000</pubDate>

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<p>mattsta wrote:<br />
&#039;&#039;This has potential to be significantly worse than the Lehman Brothers  collapse and the subprime crisis because now we are talking about nation  states,&#039;&#039; Mr Norris told BusinessDay.That&#039;s quite concerning. I guess I may have to brace myself for the oncoming GFC2 &#8211; What are you all doing to protect yourself (or at&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-266130"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4403251-the-steps-to-watch-for-in-the-coming-australian-housing-correction/page/12/#post-4645250" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic The steps to watch for in the coming Australian housing correction in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:07:00 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s quite concerning. I guess I may have to brace myself for the oncoming GFC2 &#8211; What are you all doing to protect yourself (or at least be cautious)?___________________________________________________________________________________________________________Not buying a house:)</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic $15000 house in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 00:17:06 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for 15k, what does it matter? Some televisons cost more and most of us pay more in tax:)If you buy it outright you would be positively geared to the tune of $80 PW &#8211; how will that work with your tax (I don&#039;t know the ins and outs of it). What are the holding costs and stuff? Does the local council have any out of the ordinary requirements of h&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-200406"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405237-15000-house/#post-4659203" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Welcome to the home planet.... in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 21:31:46 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has been a boom for buyers who got in before 2004:)Wonder if there are any of them out there who were smart enough to buy upbig before 2004, sell it all off since and stay out?</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic The steps to watch for in the coming Australian housing correction in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:20:57 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investment Guru wrote:<br />
Australian Properties will be doing a rebound from recent drops. Goverment steps are being done in order for the drop to stop or be at moderate levels. Anyway it&#039;s still a Buyers Market out now.   cheers</p>
<p>What steps?And, if they do take them, all they are doing is kicking the can further down the road. This may impact on&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-263376"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4403251-the-steps-to-watch-for-in-the-coming-australian-housing-correction/page/11/#post-4645235" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic The steps to watch for in the coming Australian housing correction in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:47:36 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says the end is coming? World didn&#039;t end after the great depression &#8211; there was a war but after that things really took off in a good way. I don&#039;t think of it as an end but a prerequisit for new, more sustainable growth.And no, I don&#039;t have property, or much gold or shares. Just a healthy deposit and a reasonably secure job. I plan to use my&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-264883"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4403251-the-steps-to-watch-for-in-the-coming-australian-housing-correction/page/10/#post-4645222" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic The steps to watch for in the coming Australian housing correction in the forum In light of the Euro debt</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:02:31 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light of the Euro debt crisis, it could be timely to remind everyone what happened to Australia in the last great depression.From wikiAustralia&#039;s extreme dependence on agricultural and industrial <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export" title="Export" rel="nofollow">exports</a> meant it was one of the hardest-hit countries in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world" title="Western world" rel="nofollow">Western world</a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_depression#cite_note-57" rel="nofollow"><span>[</span>58<span>]</span></a> Falling export demand and commodity prices placed massive downward&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-190876"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4403251-the-steps-to-watch-for-in-the-coming-australian-housing-correction/page/10/#post-4645220" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic What annoys you about property management? in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:22:10 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sapphire101 wrote:<br />
Just remember, being a landlord ain&#039;t easy. You have to manage the manager and it&#039;s very proactive when they don&#039;t get things right.</p>
<p>So why not just manage it yourself? Save money and get things done the way you like. </p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Gladstone Rental Increases in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:56:38 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many REAs try on more than what they are legally justified to do with rentals. All tenants should get to know their own state law with regards to rent increases, inspections, property maintainance and so on &#8211; I think most would be pleasantly surprised by what they find out.Personally, I&#039;m wonderring if some of the big RE firms currently have&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-246300"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405035-gladstone-rental-increases-2/#post-4657928" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic We need more users on this forum... in the forum fWord wrote:
That's right,</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:44:27 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fWord wrote:<br />
That&#039;s right, or perhaps the forum is quiet because the property market is quiet.</p>
<p>I agree with you again &#8211; wonder of wonders:)I also, obviously, post at a bear forum and it is remarkably quite also with regards to housing. Busy with global economics and stuff. The housing market is going through a massive calm before the storm, I&#039;d&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-203869"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4405001-we-need-more-users-on-this-forum/#post-4657680" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic A few questions about selling in current market (Adelaide) in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:38:40 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fWord wrote:<br />
but this is key: sell when the news is exceedingly good, and buy when the news is exceedingly bad.</p>
<p>That I totally agree with fWord.Late 2009/Early 2010 &#8211; what an awsome time to sell. things were on the up and up from 2008. 2007 likewise.As for buying, I recon the news has to be worse than 2008. Fundamentals are worse but news (and&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-47918"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4404975-a-few-questions-about-selling-in-current-market-adelaide/#post-4657465" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic A few questions about selling in current market (Adelaide) in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 23:36:02 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>khorask wrote:<br />
Her plan atm is for a new start.. not a &#039;quick getaway asap&#039;. Why sell it for 50k less when she could get 50k more and just wait for the best time to sell ? Also, how would she know the &#039;prices&#039; of the houses in the street to begin with ? (there are none on sale)</p>
<p>Sorry, I confused area with street. You did mention prices in the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-47916"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4404975-a-few-questions-about-selling-in-current-market-adelaide/#post-4657463" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic A few questions about selling in current market (Adelaide) in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:49:51 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#039;t she sell for 50k less than the other houses in the street? That way it should move quickly.My 2 cents, it will be an easier sell now than this time next year.</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic I'll huff and puff and take your home away in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:43:12 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott No Mates wrote:<br />
not in the least. Everyone assesses their own risk &amp; exposures. The ones who bear the risk are the investors &amp; the bank. Neither control the market.</p>
<p>So if a whole bunch of wannabe PIs get in on the action &#8211; that&#039;s not going to effect the demand side of the equation, the consequent rises in equity and lowerring of bank&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-69629"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4404715-ill-huff-and-puff-and-take-your-home-away/#post-4655724" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic I'll huff and puff and take your home away in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:23:36 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sparkys wrote:<br />
My question is who owns the home that the third little pig lived in? A smart investor, that&#039;s who.</p>
<p>That seems like more of an answer than a question:)My question is to the post above this. If a lot of inexperienced PIs are playing with the market, wouldn&#039;t that make the whole market risky, even for the experienced PIs?</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 06:17:27 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple wrote:<br />
I value those who been around for some time</p>
<p>&lt;br /<img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/evil.gif?x75824" width="" height="" />:)&#8221; title=&#8221;&gt;:)&#8221; class=&#8221;bbcode_smiley&#8221; /&gt; I&#039;ve been around for ages.Actually, I started reading and posting here before I found any bear sites.I still think the same basic logic applies though. It looked like the Aussie housing market was going to correct in 2008 (more than the 5-10%&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-269956"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/41/#post-4549236" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:28:44 +0000</pubDate>

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				<title>ummester replied to the topic July Median House Prices in the forum July Median House Prices</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 03:31:33 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JackFlash wrote:</p>
<p>ummester wrote:<br />
Difference as I see it is that American confidence in the housing sector is shot. It isn&#039;t shot here yet.</p>
<p>Yes it is. It&#039;s in the declining house prices, the doubling of properties for sale and the low turnover.  Anyone with half a clue knows that this is something different&#8230;. you can almost feel it.&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-195498"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4404578-july-median-house-prices/#post-4654804" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic July Median House Prices in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:03:22 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JackFlash wrote:<br />
The FEDs with their massive QE programs and near zero interest rates haven&#039;t made any difference to the US property markets. Our problem is that we are maxed out on credit. Australian private debt stands at around $1.2 trillion. 60% of that is supposedly residential property debt which is funded by short term international&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-250371"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4404578-july-median-house-prices/#post-4654802" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic I'll huff and puff and take your home away in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:27:37 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott No Mates wrote:<br />
Lots of &#039;not much&#039; adds up to quite a bit also may have a lower risk profile which suits piggy 1.</p>
<p>Yea, that makes sense &#8211; play it safer.I guess that is why many PIs try to lvr more bottom end property. 2 slum apartments vs a 4 beddy in the burbs for rent.Land banking seems safer still, for the first little piggy though.</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic I'll huff and puff and take your home away in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:55:40 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t get it?In the end, a house, like any thing, is worth what you can sell it for.If the 3rd little pig stays at home, who do the first little pigs sell to?Agree that most want it all and now &#8211; that&#039;s what got the second little pig in trouble. But, if niether the 2nd or 3rd little pig can afford or want the 1st little pigs house then that&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-69617"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4404715-ill-huff-and-puff-and-take-your-home-away/#post-4655712" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic Stamp duty concession to be axed for First Home Owners in NSW in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:31:50 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andysydney wrote:<br />
There should be a rush of buyers to &quot;get in&quot; before the new cut backs apply, forcing prices in the first home bracket to jump.</p>
<p>And then?Ultimately, this descision will increase supply in a market where supply is already above what is required. What happens to the price of established homes in NSW next year?</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic NSW FHOG ends 1/1/2012 in the forum NSW FHOG ends 1/1/2012</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 07:12:51 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely this has to effect the sales potential and ultimately price of established homes.</p>
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				<title>ummester replied to the topic July Median House Prices in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:56:58 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JackFlash wrote:</p>
<p>ummester wrote:<br />
Seems to me that without a prompt credit injection, at rates borrowers can afford, the market will continue to soften or begin to crash. Question is, where does that credit injection come from?</p>
<p>I tend to agree with most of what you say Unmester, however, credit or should I say easy credit is the primary cause&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-250369"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4404578-july-median-house-prices/#post-4654800" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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