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    Originally posted by yack:

    Callum
    Would you buy again through them or do it yourself? Are you from Qld or another state? I dont like new townhouses and I reckon the depreciation allowances are built into the price of the property anyway. I also dont like buying in Qld when I am in Melb. They still get commission so its still in their vested interests to sell me a property. Everything they say they do for you, you can do yourself.

    But going to the meetings gives me the information I need. As for making gains in the last 3 yrs. You could have closed your eyes and picked a spot anywhere in Australia and made a capital gain in the last 3 years.

    Hi Yack!

    Yes I would most definitely buy through them again going on my last two positive experiences. However, I haven’t found anything they have to offer at the moment that interests me. Like you, I’m not too keen on new or any type of townhouses or even units as there’s not enough land content for my liking and I’m not at all keen on Body Corporate fees and sinking funds. I’ll keep my eyes and ears open though and when there is something I think is a good thing I’ll check it out and look into buying with their help.

    We’re in NSW and chose to buy interstate because we have been caught in the Land Tax “trap” with the huge capital growth in recent years. We have five properties in Sydney in joint names but if we had have been members of The Investors Club from the beginning of our property investment we would have known to put some properties in one name only and the others in one name only thus avoiding the huge annual Land Tax bill we now receive because our properties are in joint names and the Land Tax eligibility and allowance can’t be split separately for each of us as it would if the properties were in separate names. (It can in Queensland though, as the Investors Club taught me.)

    So to have the assistance of The Investors Club to help in our search and purchase, and management of our properties interstate has been invaluable.

    Again, like you, going to their meetings and seminars gives me the information I need to proceed in accumulating a property portfolio, and the encouragement and networking is a real bonus. Have met some great people at the meetings from all walks of life, many of whom are inspiring.

    I also agree about “closing my eyes and picking anywhere in Australia these last few years” for good capital growth but the Investors Club gave me the tools and the information I needed to structure our portfolio to our best advantage for many years to come. Some of their ideas seemed quite revolutionary at first and had us thinking quite differently especially regarding our retirement plan.

    We were just plodding along with no real “plan” but now we do have a “plan” and have a much clearer idea of how, what and when we can achieve our goals, just how to go about it, and who we can turn to for reliable, accurate help.

    Yes, they do make money out of selling to the public but the big difference is they work for the VENDOR, not the purchaser as regular real estate agents do (or are supposed to do!). They are not a charitable organisation so they are entitled to make money just like the rest of us and the commission they make is quite transparent and reasonable.

    With the knowledge they have given me, I would still buy elsewhere from someone else if I found the right property as I know I could do it myself. However it would be much more complicated buying interstate without their help because of all the different real estate laws from state to state.

    I’m addicted to this forum and I’m continuing to learn more and more about this property investing “game”. I also devour any book I can get my hands on on the subject in order to increase my knowledge and hopefully avoid too many mistakes down the track.

    I’ve enjoyed your posts Yack. Keep them coming!

    Bye now,

    Callum [:o)]

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    Originally posted by yack:

    If you want to go to a free seminar on property investing – go to a free investors club evening session.

    I agree with their philosophy about acquiring property and keeping for as long as possible.

    I would not buy from them. (NEVER BUY FROM A SEMINAR) But use their strategies and DO IT yourself. I have been to a few of their sessions and motivated myself to do it myself.

    But after reading a few books on the subject its a good way to reinforce what you have learnt.

    I agree with Yack.

    We have had very positive experiences with The Investors Club and they saved us from making some huge mistakes in our goal to achieve wealth and a comfortable retirement through property. The main ones were structuring our loans correctly, minimising Land Tax, and QS reports and depreciation. Also fixed term leases have given us more control as a landlord.

    We attended several monthly meetings (which are FREE) and a couple of seminars (which cost about $25 per head) and we learnt so much from just ordinary Mum and Dad investors like ourselves and like some of us on this forum.

    We have purchased two properties through The Investors Club and were very impressed with the level of help and service they gave us. Both properties we checked out ourselves beforehand and with due dilligence and both properties have made huge capital gains in just a couple of years, are cash flow positive (but not by the 11 second rule) and have been tenanted from day one. We have had not one single problem (touch wood!).

    We have “dragged” our adult children to meetings, as well as our neighbours and friends as we feel the meetings are honest, well run, not high sales pressure at all (in fact no properties are sold at the meetings), interesting, informative, educatational and very motivating and encouraging. Some meetings are better than others dependng on who’s running them and the monthly speakers so we go to different ones in different areas to hear the same story told in different ways.

    I can highly recommend you check them out yourselves. Will only cost you your time.

    Callum [:o)]

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    Acreages south west of Sydney are not yet as expensive it seems as acreages north of Sydney.

    Friends at Menangle Park recently sold 2 acres for $1.4M. Developer hoping for future change in zoning from rural to residential which has been rumoured for some time.

    Acreages around Camden, Campbelltown (Kentlyn), Picton,
    Bargo etc are selling for more like $500,000 per acre. Seems better value for money than north of Sydney. North side prices will probably flow on to these areas though as they have with residential.

    Maybe it’s an undiscovered area as yet (or has been until now!)

    Cheers!

    Callum

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    Originally posted by PRINCE$$

    Hi,

    I have recently put my IP with Robert R Andrew (Queen St Campbelltown). I have had no problems to date. One thing that made me decide to go with them is that the Rentals and Sales are managed personally by the owners and therefore have a personal interest in the business.

    ThanX


    I too have had a good experience with Robert R Andrew, Queen Street, Campbelltown, as our Property Managers.

    Laura and Kathryn look after our properties most efficiently and reliably and I have great peace of mind knowing our millions of dollars of investments are in such good hands.

    I did my homework before deciding to use Robert R Andrew after less than positive experiences with other property managers in Campbelltown. I rang six agencies that had been recommended to me and interviewed their property managers with a list of questions I needed the right answers to.

    Then I visited and interviewed in person the top three of these before deciding on R R Andrews. I figured I wanted someone with experience who I could be confident that they knew what they were doing and could work as part of my “team” to help me achieve my financial and wealth creating goals. I didn’t want a teenager straight out of high school in charge of my investments. Too big a risk to take for me.

    So far I have not been disappointed. They have even gone “beyond the call of duty” and I am most impressed.
    Would highly recommend them.

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    quote:


    Originally posted by PRINCE$$

    Hi,

    I have recently put my IP with Robert R Andrew (Queen St Campbelltown). I have had no problems to date. One thing that made me decide to go with them is that the Rentals and Sales are managed personally by the owners and therefore have a personal interest in the business.

    ThanX


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    Hi Battz71 ! [:)]

    Haven’t been able to get a copy of Dolf de Roos highly recommended book yet but still looking.

    Very curious …….. what is his 100:10:3:1 philosphy you spoke of? [?][?][?]

    Just addicted to this forum and hungry for knowledge.

    Looking forward to your reply. Thanks in advance.

    [:)][:)][:)]

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    Good advice AD

    Am interested to know the title of John Burley’s book you mentioned?

    Very interested in property investment and keen as mustard to learn all I can. Perhaps this book would be of help.

    Title please??

    Many thanks [:)]

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    That’s what we’re worried about – financial freedom sounds great but at what cost if you have hundreds of properties to look after or keep your eye on.

    Fair enough a PM could take some of the work load but you would have to seriously “keep you eye om” the PM too. We all make mistakes.

    There must be a simple answer to this dilemma though. How does Steve do it? Any ideas anyone?

    The other thought we had was, how many is enough?

    How many IP’s do we need for financial fredom? I guess this is a personal decision, and of course we have given this some thought but maybe we’ll have to cut back a bit on our original ideas so that we can manage them comfortably.

    Don’t want to take on any extra unwanted unnecessary stress that is going to detract from the enjoyment of financial freedom.

    Hope someone out there has got some ideas. [?]

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    Hi All, more info – its a duplex with current tenants in place for another 12 months, 2 years old, asking 185,000 with a net rental return of 246.00 pw. The agent states (and I know its true) that recent info in the area says to expect a 10% growth over the next 12 months, I am expecting a phone call back re the property after 4 pm today. HG


    Hi there! Sounds interesting!

    Are Body Corporate Fees applicable to this duplex or other duplexes for that matter?

    Does this vary from State to State?

    Any idea on what the Council Rates are?

    Just doing my homework. Hope someone can help.

    Bye for now
    [:0)]

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    I am also very interested in how to manage multiple investment properties successfully with the minimum of effort. Any advice and hints out there? Managing 130 sounds like a full time job in itself!

    We have 8 IP’s and our PPOR and we do spend a lot of time and energy “keeping track” of this small portfolio of properties.

    We employ a PM for six of them and manage two ourselves.

    We intend to purchase more properties and are actively sourcing them but are concerned about our ability to manage more than we currently have and still have time to fit in all our other commitments and activities.

    VERY impressed with this discussion board and the opportunity of chatting with like minded people creating wealth through property. In fact, I’m becoming addicted to the board!

    Happy investing[:)]

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