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  • Profile photo of bla0018bla0018
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    Hi all
    For the experts out there just have a few questions.

    My dad is going to be my garentor for my loan im going with westpac because he’s self employed and dosnt have much income on paper. Westpac don’t assess his income and won’t refinance his home.

    His property is worth 430k and he has 220k on the loan.

    My broker says that I will need to contribute my savings which is around 20k

    My question is if I give my father the 20k to put into the redraw facility and after the loans settled take it back out will that work?

    Brings me to my next question if your a Garentor do you have access to the funds that you have available in the redraw.

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Guarantor

    Why do you need to contribute $20k? Is it because of servicing or because of security?

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    Profile photo of bla0018bla0018
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    Apparently there’s isn’t enough equity

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    If you have $20k to give your dad why not just use that yourself?

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    Profile photo of bla0018bla0018
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    I can’t afford to service the loan myself so we are going with an investment loan and using a Garentor because 20k isn’t enough for the deposit.
    This property will eventually be an investment property after I live in it for a year so a 100% loan would be ideal and bring the lvr down using property growth eventually removing my dad as Garentor

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    In that case you would want to borrow as much as you can and you should get some tax advice about how to maximise the loan (in conjunction with advice from your mortgage broker). I don’t really understand what is going on from your post.

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    Profile photo of bla0018bla0018
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    I don’t really know how else to explain it,

    Profile photo of bla0018bla0018
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    He’s got around 120k available as a redraw can he access those funds even though he’s used that in congonjuction with the value of the property as security after the loan is settled?

    Because if yes I will give him 20k so it increases his equity and I will not contribute anything to the house

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Why are you going with an investment loan when you intend to occupy the property for a year ?

    Wouldn’t you go for an I/O owner occupied loan.

    You won’t be using potential rental income to get over servicing as you are living in the property.

    Cheers

    Yours in Finance

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Yes gift him $20k extra so you can borrow $20k extra could be a good idea – but get tax advice, especially on Part IVA

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    Profile photo of bla0018bla0018
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    Thanks terry I’ll do that

    And Richard in terms of your question I can’t service the loan hence using investment loan to increase borrowing capacity and once ive settled I’m moving into it and applying for first home owners grant

    Profile photo of Ethan TimorEthan Timor
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    And Richard in terms of your question I can’t service the loan hence using investment loan to increase borrowing capacity and once ive settled I’m moving into it and applying for first home owners grant

    In which state are you that you can claim first home owners grant after you bought the house and moved to it?

    Do I understand correctly that you plan to tell the lender one thing (“it will be an investment and I’ll get $x in weekly rent”) but actually you plan to move in and tell the ATO a different thing (“it’s my home so no CGT should apply when I’ll sell it”)? 😳

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    Profile photo of bla0018bla0018
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    I’m not telling the ato anything I’m applying for first home owners grant because I’m eligible just because I purchase a investment property dosnt mean I can’t change my mind and decide to live in it hence why I can grant and stamp duty reduction.

    Profile photo of bla0018bla0018
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    And yes if I move in it after settlement for 12 months it’s seen as my ppor and I prove this then I can sell in 6 years without CGT but Thats not part of my plan at all

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