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    Hi,

    I need some advice on how I can sell both my properties without triggering a GST event, I believe this maybe possible.

    Here's the background.

    Property 1 was bought (as PPR) in 2004, which I moved straight into.

    Property 2 was bought (as PPR) in 2010, which I moved straight into.

    I lived in property 2 throughout 2011 and move back into property 1 in Feb 2012.

    I am currently living in Property 1 and would like to sell it now.

    Once Property 1 is sold (say in the next 3months).

    I will move back into Property 2.

    Is it possible to then live for a period (6months? 12months?) in Property 2 and sell it without triggering a CGT event?

    I have looked at the ATO website, however I can't find a clear answer.

    Both properties are located in Victoria, both under mortgage (myself has the sole owner).

    Please advise if any further information is required.

    thanks in advance 

     

    Scotts

    Profile photo of JpcashflowJpcashflow
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    Hi Scotts,

    I would be contacting your accountant and get some advice… Thats the best and easy way.

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    thanks for the tip, i did end up seeing an accountant(s) in early last year, spent over an 1hour talk through my plans as I also have a small dev going to.

    they advised they would get back to me and with verified advice (obviously what i was doing was outside of their comfort zone) on how the structure/restructure, but never did.

    basically wasted half my day to travel to see them, time off work etc 

    the accountant was recommend on this board, so i'm a bit off the idea of seeing random accountants.

    so i hoping someone here could give me some good advise, which i can then just get verified.

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    For general situations you cannot avoid CGT on both – perhaps you could if no growth!

    You need tax advice on how to minimise any CGT.

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    Terryw, is there not some rule about moving back into a property and making it your PPR again before selling?

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    Hi Scotts,

    If the property was receiving an income at some time then CGT may be applicable – How much for what portion best to talk to an expert.

    When the property was "treated" as an IP did you ever lodge a tax return with your properties?

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    yes during tax year of 2011-2012 i did lodge a tax return on property 2. that is the only claim as an IP made (on either property)

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    If the ATO site is not clear and a tax accountant can't give you a definitive answer they normally ask the ATO for a decision. That covers everyone's butt

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    scotts wrote:
    Terryw, is there not some rule about moving back into a property and making it your PPR again before selling?

    Yes, http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1997240/s118.140.html

    but only if sell one within 6 months of buying the other.

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    Profile photo of Rob G.Rob G.
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    Generally, you get one main residence exemption, except perhaps for a 6 month overlap as Terry said.

    Take your details to another accountant to get an informed opinion.

    Cheers,

    Rob

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