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  • Profile photo of usmicusmic
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    @usmic
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    Hi guys,

    I know, I know. Buying off the plan is never a good idea. However, there is a company calling themselves mentors that pitches:
    – $379k townhouse for a 76K deposit in Officer
    – you get refund of deposit after settlement
    – initially negatively geared by about $2k per year and positively geared after 5-ish years

    The median price for a 3 bed unit in that area is 339K, so we would be buying below market value. Growth rate is 15% on realestate.com. However, you get the deposit back after settlement. Essentially leaving you with a 303k purchases price. I have been sent all the details and they look good – provided that we see growth…
    what does everyone think?

    Profile photo of Corey BattCorey Batt
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    If that’s a rebate the valuer will take this off the valued amount, so this can heavily affect your LVR and require you put further funds into the deal.

    Fundamentally, any good investment doesn’t require these shenanigans.

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    Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    Fundamentally, any good investment doesn’t require these shenanigans.

    Spot on.

    Just had a similar conversation with a client recently.

    The property was coming with rental guarantees, free legal advice, etc.

    If they need to thrown in so many sweeteners then you’ve got to question the quality of the investment.

    Cheers

    Jamie

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    Profile photo of usmicusmic
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    They say they are buying these developments in bulk. This is how they are negotiating the discount…

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Make sure you disclose to the lender.

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    Profile photo of Corey BattCorey Batt
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    They say they are buying these developments in bulk. This is how they are negotiating the discount…

    They wouldn’t actually be ‘buying’ the developments, they’re just second tier sales jocks. Anyone with a mobile phone and ABN can do exactly the same – and do!

    Property is easy to sell in Australia, you don’t need to provide massive ‘incentives’ to sell them. So why give away massive discounting? It’s all about maximising the profit in your own pockets, which I have no doubt they are doing. ;)

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    What are your actual goals/plans here? The property is in Officer which isn’t that flash yet is nearly $400k. Why not skip the OTP idea and get a real house in a city that’s actually in growth phase like Adelaide or Brisbane?

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    Profile photo of Jacqui MiddletonJacqui Middleton
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    This is dodginess at its finest. Selling something overpriced so the pricetag gets recorded as a “precedent” for all and sundry to see and use as a benchmark for current prices in the area, and refunding a portion to make it all fine with the purchaser after the fact. However it’s mortgage fraud, pure and simple.

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    smelly

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