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  • Profile photo of fudge111fudge111
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    Hello property investors,

    I have a question as someone who is still learning the ropes.

    If my wife and I invested in an IP and the loan was secured under both our incomes is there any way that the negative gearing can be applied to one income and then the capital gain after sale be applied to the other income.

    Or are the rules that whichever income was used for the negative gearing tax deductions must also be the same income that the capital gain is applied to once it is sold.

    I guess I am trying to decipher how joint loans work and whether there is a difference between married couples and 2 people who are not….?

    Thanks fudge111

    Thank you for your help,

    Profile photo of Albert WaldronAlbert Waldron
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    Hi Fudge111 –

    You are correct in your assumption that the rules that whichever owner/ borrower was directed the rental income or negative gearing tax deductions would by default also be the same owner/ borrower that the capital gain would need to be applied to once it is sold.

    The best way around this would be to look into a Discretionary Trust and have it borrow the money. Both incomes are used to assess serviceability with the lenders. But you would then have the discretion to distribute the income (not loss – negative gearing) to whom every was a beneficiary of the trust.

    The down side is because the loan is in the name of the trust, any losses i.e. negative gearing is trapped in the trust. But with Fixed interest rates of 4.98% or less for 5 years available from several lenders it shouldn’t be too hard to find a property that has only minor negative gearing.

    There are people who will try to achieve the negative gearing in a trust by offering you a hybrid trust but the same problem as owning it in your own name exists in that you need to own the units in the trust and the end result is to negate the flexibility of the discretion.

    Regards Albert

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    Profile photo of fudge111fudge111
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    Thanks Albert for your advice…

    It’s good to know what the different options are.

    Cheers

    fudge111

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Generally ownership determines deductibilitywhere spouses are involved. So X owning with the loan in the name of X and Y would mean X claims all xeductions and gets all income.

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