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  • Profile photo of MichaelGGMichaelGG
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    Hi everyone,

    I am in a potential double stamp duty position. Hope you can give me some help with it.

    The situation is:

    1. I have set up a fixed unit trust with a company trustee. I am the sole director of this company trustee. 

    2. I signed a property as "my name as trustee for the my fixed unit trust". I had the impression that I could sign my name ATF the trust given that I'm the sole director.

    3. A copy of contract was provided to my settlement agent. And, I made it clearly with settlement agent that the purchase was conducted under the trust.

    4. Prior to make assessment of any potential risk and get my authority (I have not signed any documents with settlement agent), settlement agent lodge contract with the Office of State Revenue. And, the taxpayer and transferee were lodged under my name.

    5. When I received the form of Appointment of Settlement Agent for Buyer with other documents from settlement agent, I realized the taxpayer and transferee were not trustee, company.

    6. I contacted settlement agent immediately. She told me the contract had been lodged, the only way to cancel it with the Office of State Revenue was to require a reject letter from bank (it's 10 days to finance approval date). 

    7. I contacted bank and being told the loan was almost approved (the loan I applied is under the name of the trust)

    8. In order to get issued resolved, bank also contacted the Office of State Revenue. The advice received was it was not necessary to cancel the original contract as long as I can prove the facts listed above.

    9. The reality is I have one week to go before the finance approval due. And, 28 days from finance approval is settlement due day. 

    My concerns are:

    1. if i submits a written submission to the Office of State Revenue and outlines how the error occurred, what kind of chance that double duty would be exempt. Would this the best way to this done.

    2. Would the Office of State Revenue amend the taxpayer and transferee to the company trustee? Or, I have to sign another contract with seller and lodge it.

    3. If the exemption request rejected, could I take any legal action against the settlement agent? (if the contact has not been lodged, bank is going to notice me that the purchaser's detail should be revised on the contract. And, seller agrees to refine the purchaser to company trustee).

    Any helps would be highly appreciated!!

    Thanks,

    MichaelGG

    Profile photo of Scott No MatesScott No Mates
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    Where does your solicitor fit into the picture to ensure you’ve executed the document correctly?

    Does changing the Trustee change the ownership & trigger more stamp duty?

    Profile photo of MichaelGGMichaelGG
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    @michaelgg
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    Thank you Scott for your reply.

    At the time the Offer and Acceptance was signed, the lawful trustee is that company. Therefore, a Trust appointed me as trustee did not exist.

    Also, I would prefer to have a company trustee for that Trust.

    I contacted OSR and been advised myself was not valid trustee. I will submit a letter to OSR to explain how the error occurred.

    Any suggestions?

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    This is why you should use a lawyer not a settlement agent.

    I think you would be up for double stamp duty in any case as you entered into the contract in your own name.

    I take it your land is in WA? The OSR are very strict over there I hear.

    Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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    Profile photo of Jacqui MiddletonJacqui Middleton
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    I am guessing if you had put the words "and/or nominee" beside your name, you'd not be in this predicament now.

    Jacqui Middleton | Middleton Buyers Advocates
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    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    JacM wrote:
    I am guessing if you had put the words "and/or nominee" beside your name, you'd not be in this predicament now.

    Possibly this wouldn't have changed anything.

    Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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    Profile photo of Jacqui MiddletonJacqui Middleton
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    Oh wow really.  I can't quite get my head around why but I'll be super careful about putting my name and/or nominee on any contract i do not intend to buy in my name :)

    Jacqui Middleton | Middleton Buyers Advocates
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    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Different states have different rules and they are not very clear. It could be possible in some instances but best method is to avoid the risk of double stamp duy and contract in the relevant entity from the start.

    Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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    Profile photo of MichaelGGMichaelGG
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    Yes, the property is in WA.

    terrible mistake i started with and settlement agent made to me.

    The evidence we can show OSR is trust deed. It shows the trustee of trust is that company. I am not a valid trustee to the trust.

    Hence, if OSR believes I signed contract as capacity of my own, it's not a valid contract as I am not trustee. The company I represented is the trustee.

    Settlement agent suggested me to arrange a Variation to Contact to reflect the buyer's name as Trustee of the Trust. Bank also would like to reflect this in loan contract. Have anyone done this kind of variation? Shed some light on me. thanks!!

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