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  • Profile photo of Johnny1974Johnny1974
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    Hi all
    I own 3 IP’s equally with my partner.

    Long story short, I want to transfer (sell) my share of each property into her name. So if I sell her my 50% share of a property for $1 how much stamp duty would she pay? ie stamp duty on a $1 or on the current market valuation?

    We are not married, so how would the ATO look at such transactions? After all, if I want to sell my share in a property for a certain price it should be my decision? Right?

    Profile photo of luke86luke86
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    You will pay stamp duty on the sale price or market value, whichever is higher. This rule is in place to stop people transferring property for $1 for tax evasion reasons.

    To cut a long story short, if you sell her your share for $1, then you will pay stamp duty on the market value.

    Cheers,
    Luke

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    Sorry- you will still have the pay the market value of the stamp duty, which ever is higher.

    Which state are you in?? i know in VIC and some another state; no stamp duty is payable if you “add/ remove ” your wife to the property-

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    Michael

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    Profile photo of 4jojo4jojo
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    HI,

    I've been trying to find this out –

    What if you have an IP in Vic in own names can you transfer property title over to family trust fund without paying stamp duty?

    Thanks.

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    4jojo wrote:
    HI,

    I've been trying to find this out –

    What if you have an IP in Vic in own names can you transfer property title over to family trust fund without paying stamp duty?

    Thanks.

    I doubt it.

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    Profile photo of Johnny1974Johnny1974
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    If you did the "sale" / transfer for a nominal amount, say 20k (when really a half share is worth 150k) how would the ato find out? I dont get it, what if I did really sell a property for a cheap price, who is the ATO to tell me what stamp duty to pay. <moderator: delete language> there should be no stamp duty to encourage us property investors to transactions / deals. That would get the real estate game happening again.

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    Johnny1974 wrote:
    If you did the "sale" / transfer for a nominal amount, say 20k (when really a half share is worth 150k) how would the ato find out? I dont get it, what if I did really sell a property for a cheap price, who is the ATO to tell me what stamp duty to pay. <moderator: delete language> there should be no stamp duty to encourage us property investors to transactions / deals. That would get the real estate game happening again.

    ATO wouldn't be concerned with stamp duty as it is a state levy. If it is an obvious related party transfer then the OSR will probably want to see a valuation . Otherwise they may not know, but could pick it up with data matching – going on the land values.

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    In Victoria you will only need to pay 50% of total stamp duty payable. Normally a govt. approved valuer is appointed if property is not sold to a third party.
    This was my situation a few years ago. If the A.T.O doesn't get you at the front door they will get you out the back door.

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