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  • Profile photo of pullmyfingerpullmyfinger
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    Apologies if I have posted this in the wrong forum – I am new here and this is my first post!

    My husband and I have just finished building our first investment property. As this is all new to us I was wondering if someone could give us a rough indication of the potential tax benefits (i.e different tax bracket etc). I am more than happy to supply information that may be required. We have a fantastic accountant but I just want to know what we might be able to expect come tax time.

    Our home last valued 6 weeks ago at $550k – mortgage is $350k
     IP valued at $500K – IO mortgage $500k

    Have advertised through agent at $470 p/w (we have included lawn maintenance in this). Agent is charging 12% for property managing etc..

    Our repayments on IP a month are $3k so once rent is deducted we will be adding back in $1350k a month.

    We are getting a quantity surveyor this week to do a depreciation schedule. The loan is in both of our names but 70% in husbands and 30% in mine.

    My husband earns $160k p/a. I think he is in the top tax bracket? I earn considerably less $21k.

    The house is brand new – stone benchtops/gas log fire etc..

    Again if you need more details let me know..

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    You can't claim repayments you can add interest charged and 5 years worth of borrowing costs to expenses.
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00113233.htm
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00113245.htm
    You can also add council rates, water rates, insurance – agents fee as expenses
    can add 2.5% of building costs of new dwelling to expenses for each year for 40 years but it does increase capital gains tax if you sell later.
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00131327.htm
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00183243.htm
    Net Profit or Loss = rent income – expenses incurred

    tax rates can be found from our very helpful tax office web site see link below
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/12333.htm
    Also the ATO has a guide for new landlords
    that can be downloaded
    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00237831.htm

    Hope you find the links useful
    You might find other interesting stuff in the ATO website as it is a very helpful resource.

    Is the ownership of the property also in 30% and 70% proportions as tenants in common

    or 50% ownership as joint ownership

    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/00237831.htm&page=5&H5

    Rental income and expenses incurred on actual house needs to divided by ownership ratio of property.

    I am not sure on how the split in loan ratio affects this your accountant needs to be asked if this splits the interest costs to each of you as 70% and 30% or is it based on property ownership ratio instead.

    Profile photo of eilatan28eilatan28
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    12% agents fee !!!!!!! wow what state are you in ?? that seems really steep to me. ours charges 6% (melbourne SE suburbs) I would be trying to negotiage a better deal!! otherwise goodluck with everything and well done for taking the first step with your first IP!!!

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    Must be WA – they are high over there.

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    Profile photo of pullmyfingerpullmyfinger
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    Yes – you are correct it's WA. 6% would be sweet!

    Profile photo of pullmyfingerpullmyfinger
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    Forgot to add we negotiated them down from 16% !!

    Profile photo of Mr5o1Mr5o1
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    Hi pullmyfinger..

    Based on your info, my best guess is an annual net loss of around $31k to $33k. Considering 70% of that loss will be applied to your husband’s taxable income, and 30% will be applied to your own, your tax savings will be between $9k and $10k.

    There’s a great online calculator for that here:
    http://www.wheatcroft.com.au/tools/negative_gearing_calculator.php

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    wow! glad im in vic!!!! good job on the negotiations then!!! good luck

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