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    Hi All,  Approx 4 months ago I bought a lot of land through an agent prior to the plan of sub even being approved.

    The contracts will be ready at the end of the month but all I want to do is on-sell the land at a higher price as  the settlement is still about 12 months away.

    Is there anyway to on-sell the land without paying stamp duty/. I know when signing the contracts I can place down “in nominee” but I am unsure to what extent this has an effect?  

    I think my only solution at the end of the day is purchasing the land (in my own name), then re-listing the land and if I sell it, I’ll then have to settle 1 day after I settle. But then I’ll be subject to CGT and Stamp, which will probably not be worth it.
     Is this right or is there another way around this?  

    Cheers,
    DIM.

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    Don;t think there is any legal way of doing it. 

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    Hi, unsure about the proposed  in nominee”  on the contract to avoid personal CGT upon sale but maybe you could try on-selling without involving an agent? this could save $$$

    Just out of curiosity where abouts is the land, in Victoria? 

    If so what size are the blocks and how much would you take on a 30 day settlement subject to finance?

    p.m. me with details thanks.

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    In Vic, previously anyway, you could sign a contract "and/or nominee" and then switch to the nominee's name at settlement with no stamp duty implications if you had a written agreement with the nominee before you signed the contract, whereby they appointed you to act as their nominee.

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    Hi Guys,

    thanx for the info, thought it something along thoes line.  Have to worth the math and see if its worth it.

    Cheers,
    DIM

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    To Answer your question joelc,

    Land was bought in Hastings, Victoria. My purchase price was 130K and the land size is 706s/m.

    The developer is relisting his 6 lots of 600s/m at $140+ hence I did want to keep the lot.

    But Even if i was to sell the land at 145 – the 3K stamp and 2% to the agent, after all the stuffing around and not to mention loan app fess, I would proabbly only make around 5-6K.

    The agent believes he can relist the land at 145K at time to settlement without any issues. However,  if anyone was interested in purchasing "and/or nominee" I would ask for 5K clear, and they can purchase the land at 130K.

    Cheers,
    DIM,

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