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  • Profile photo of TaraAndreTaraAndre
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    Hi Steve and members
    As a baby-boomer 56 years young I always had engrained
    in my consciousness to own my own home. No other
    wealth training at all. It wasn”t till I read RK who said
    owning your own home was a liability, not an asset, that
    the penny dropped.

    Our house is now on the market and proceeds will be used
    for RE investing. The market is hot, hot, hot here. As soon
    as a house comes on the market it usually sells within
    weeks.

    I thought we could turn over a few houses in high capital gain areas to increase capital, then buy some to hold. Finding a deal will be interesting in this market but I believe we can buy well,
    add value then sell on. Perhaps buy one to turn, buy one
    to keep, buy one to turn, buy one to keep.

    Is this the best way to go or should we explore other
    approaches such as buying holding, buying holding?

    To find houses that offer positive cashflow we may need
    to drive out to towns that have low capital gains. Although
    I have seen some properties in the local area that could offer positive cashflow
    they would take a fair hunk of our capital for the deposit.

    I have
    many talents but accounting is not one of them, so I
    am a bit in the dark on how many houses we would
    need to buy and hold to give us income as well
    as cashflow to keep buying more houses.

    Does age make a difference? Although we are
    both fairly healthy and enthusiastic we are probably
    more cautious than a younger person. We also have to be realistic about our energies and the time we have left
    to create the finances needed for the future.

    Any input is welcome, hopefully this site and some
    of Steve’s other resources will help in our decision
    making.
    Tara

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    Age may be or may not be a hassle – perhaps it can be used as an advantage in the context of psychology and identifying who was serious etc.

    It really depends on selection and ensuring that your strategy is deployed as correctly as possible.

    Profile photo of SaskatoonSaskatoon
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    Hi, Tara.
    Why sell your property? Surely you will incur costs of sale, and costs to repurchase? Draw down on your equity in your home, and use this loan to make a deposit/s on investment property/ies. I am an older baby boomer, and like my present home (in Adelaide). Age makes no difference, except that you have less time for compounding to work than those younger!
    Terry

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    Tara,
    I am 31 years old but am facing a similar dillemma. I am currently thinking of selling of my house and realising the asset so I can invest in a lot more real estate. It is a big step as we live in an area where property is going up but we are still very keen to achieve financial independence. Drawing down on the loan is an option but being able to have a lot of cash makes things even easier. Not sure which way to go.

    Profile photo of Steve McKnightSteve McKnight
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    Tara,

    I agree with Terry’s point.

    Why sell? You can always just redraw and use those proceeds to invest.

    Tax deduction is still available and you are not uprooted from your home.

    Regards,

    Steve McKnight

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    Profile photo of ChrisBedfordChrisBedford
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    Hi Tara,

    When you’re going to live to 100 plus [;)], your age is not so much of a factor is it? I found the free articles on the http://www.propertyinvesting.com site were good to get more of a handle on strategies, mindset, direction etc.

    Cheers

    Chris B

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    quote:


    Age may be or may not be a hassle – perhaps it can be used as an advantage in the context of psychology and identifying who was serious etc.

    It really depends on selection and ensuring that your strategy is deployed as correctly as possible.


    Profile photo of TaraAndreTaraAndre
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    Hi Everyone
    It was great to receive your replies and support. Wonderful.
    We have been feeling pretty much alone on this journey. Most
    of the time I feel I am moving around in the dark.

    I am gaining heaps of experience though as we go along and
    hope to share some of this on the site.

    Normally I would agree with suggestions to keep our house
    and refinance. Here are the problems we face, I would like
    your feed-back.

    1. The house is in a low capital gain area, one of the lowest
    on the Sunshine Coast. We are about 25 mins from the
    coast itself. It seems people want to buy out here but
    perceive it to be much cheaper than the coast. The same
    property in Buderim, Coolum, Noosa etc would be
    worth $100,000-$200,000 more than what we can achieve here.
    We felt it was better to free up all our capital and re-invest
    in high capital gain areas such as the beach, maroochydore
    or other areas where the majority of people are prefering to live.

    It was more of a lifestyle choice to buy this place.
    My partner has put in sweat equity and the house and
    land looks great. This has helped and the price has
    increased some but not like on the coast.

    2. It is Rural A catagory….big problem it seems for lenders.
    Because we have a very low income at present
    (health reasons) it is difficult to even get
    a loan and then interest rates are around 9%. With
    another 1% or 2% rise it makes it pretty high rates. Also lenders
    will only give us 60% of value (Rural A again).

    Our lender has told us that if we buy a house in town
    Res. or Res Rural the rate will be 6% and they will
    give us up to 80%. Big difference hey?

    3. We have put heaps into preparing the house for sale.
    We are concerned that if we rent it out the house will
    start going backwards as far as presentation.
    We may lose a lot of the time and money we have
    invested to present it well.

    4. Being acreage it is a lot to maintain. Apparently tenants
    have to keep it mowed. The continual growth of weeds
    would be up to us and we are both getting to the stage
    we have had enough of weeding etc.

    5. Although we love it here heaps, I personally would
    prefer to be closer to facilities.

    Feed-back is welcome.
    Tara

    P.S. Deero If we were in an area that was going up I would
    consider keeping the house. Then again it would depend
    on how much capital I had in the house and how much debt.

    Profile photo of TaraAndreTaraAndre
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    Hi, Tara.
    Why sell your property? Surely you will incur costs of sale, and costs to repurchase? Draw down on your equity in your home, and use this loan to make a deposit/s on investment property/ies. I am an older baby boomer, and like my present home (in Adelaide). Age makes no difference, except that you have less time for compounding to work than those younger!
    Terry


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    Thanks Tara,
    We are going to keep the place (I think my wife would kill me if we sold !!) I have been learning heaps lately about how to structure the finance to maximise the property purchases available. This forum has opened up to me a whole new world of options by way of no docs loans….Thanks once again for the forum Steve and thanks for the advice Tara.
    Enjoy
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    Profile photo of TaraAndreTaraAndre
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    Hi Andrew
    If you want the phone number of the Ray White broker I mentioned in our email, let me know. There is also another
    broker who said he could get us no doc loans. It would
    be good to sus out who offers the best rate.
    I have three brokers now to compare with.

    I was told the Ray White broker is paid a wage so she may
    not be guiding us towards loans which pay her the best.

    Some brokers get paid three ways:
    1. $1500 from the borrower when he gets a loan approved
    2. $ 250 from the lender
    3. A royalty payment on each payment the lender makes.

    There may also be high admin costs.

    I wonder how unbiased a broker can be when hunting down loans.
    Still if a broker can get a better interst rate it may be worth
    the extra charges. It all comes down to us becoming as educated on loans to know ourselves if it is a good deal or a lemon.

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