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  • Profile photo of Istvan051Istvan051
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    Hey,
    Im 17 and am saving for my first deposit on a place and have been for quite some time now, and it has come to my attension that just having my money in my high interest bank account isnt really generating very much return for me 5 (percent). and i was wondering if anyone here knows very much about bluechip shares or other forms of safe low risk places to put money in order to receive a greater return then 5 percent per annum? and were/how i could get into it. sorry if it seems like a dumb question but im still young n learning.

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    Hi Stephen,

    Read your other post in the Tell Tale forum and it sounds all good.

    I’d be wary of jumping into the blue chips if your goal is to buy an IP at 18. What’s your idea of a blue chip anyway. I suppose a Federal Finance Minister backed Telstra 2 blue chip issue at $ 7-40 a pop is the sort of thing you’re referring to ??

    I’d stick with the slow and steady savings regime you already have going. When I was your age I was jumping around like a f*rt in a bottle as well. The whole process seemed to be so pedestrian and I just wanted it to speed up. Jumping around from one thang to the next rarely gets you along the track any faster than “sticking to your knitting”.

    Here’s to great success with it all Stephen.

    Cheers,

    Dazzling

    “No point having a cake if you can’t eat it.”

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    Hello Stephen,
    Yes I concur with Dazzling – if you can hang in there with your 5% I am certain you will succeed.
    I did not get any direction with investing till I was about 35, and still have enough time to succeed yet.
    You have time and persistence on your side.Hang in there.
    I sold my blue chip t2 shares 3 years ago at 4.80.
    Bought them at the float price. Have used the proceeds to help buy property and have done fine since.
    Remember leverage will be your friend when you get into property – buying shares now with your cash will not help your cause much (no leverage)
    and may harm your cause. Take the 5%.

    Giddo
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    stephen051

    Not a dumb question at all.

    An important aspect to look at when determining investment strategies is your investment time line. If you are saving for a deposit to purchase a property in say the next 12 months or so, shares may not be a good option as shares are better for a longer term view. Prices of shares can fluctuate by as much as 5% on a daily basis, this could leave you in a hole when you are looking to use your capital as a deposit if you are not prepared to wait until the price comes back up.

    In summary, I agree with the previous comments, take the risk free 5% at this stage and build you portfolio over the longer term, trying to make a quick buck can get you burnt if you don’t have the experience.

    Rhys

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    …of course with the appropriate trailing sell / rising stop-loss in place that outlay of $7.20 per share would have triggered a sell at around $9.00… a capital gain of 25%, plus dividends of around 6%pa.

    Just playing devil’s advocate here.

    Stephen, learning how to effectively manage shares is absolutely in your best interest. A great start is provided by one of our forum regulars. Check out WayneL’s Trading Pages to get you thinking straight.

    For me personally, blue-chips with strong dividend yields & trailing stops provide good income & reasonably secure capital, while smaller companies can generate higher capital returns but increased trading costs (higher volatility is more likely to trigger a stop-loss.)
    I mainly focus on areas I know a little about. I hold certain beliefs about future movements in the price of oil, gold, interest rates etc, and these influence my stock selection.

    So once again, learning is great, trading/investing can be fun, but there are pitfalls for the unwary.

    Cheers, F.[cowboy2]

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    Hi Stephen051
    Sorry to be the bug in the oitment but your 17. This is the best time to take risk.
    Yes you can put it in an account and get 5% or you could also go and put it on black 21 at crown casino which may give you a 100% return its all to do with risk.
    You should take the risk.
    why
    You can read all you like about like about investing.
    Invest in this, invest in that, win here, lose here but the best way to learn is do it.
    You don’t sit around reading books on driving a car you get out and drive.
    At your age (maybe a couple of people here would like to forget there youth) you need to take risks especially in business because the people that are successful in business are the risk takers.
    If I was your age again (and I’m nearly 3 times it)I would invest in the highest profit, riskiest property venture there was.
    I would research it ( don’t go for the get rich quick feeders) commercial (would be the go for me) or land sub divisions (Lots out there) learn from them.
    You have 43 years to make up for any losses you make now and if you make a large gain ( more then a couple of investors here if read) you will get a jump multifold by leveraging.
    If you take at 17 the view of low risk easy investing you will never jump out of a plane to parasail, scuba dive, drive a sports car doing 90mph on a hairpin curve or invest in large projects.
    All of the above you will wish you had done and the risk takers will be doing them.
    Learning is good for people at school and to find out information but in my experience the best learning is doing.
    Bank deposits are for little old ladies and bankers.
    They give you little or no return( when you take out cpi) they are leveraged against nothing and can’t be used for any form of tax crediting.
    As for shares same thing as above get into day trading and learn.
    Get a day trading broker and cut a deal on day trading charging, If thats what your into.
    The higher the risk the higher the return.
    Even if you lost $15,000 on this senario you would have gain in excess of $100,000 worth of learning that nobody including me can give you.
    You would come out a sharper and in some ways meaner businessman and that is what I would like to see in business.
    Non of this cotton wool stuff for me.
    This is not financial advice and should not be used to gain lending in any form.

    here to help

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    Great post on the fly on the seat of your pants attitude. While most won’t agree, mistakes and better ways ahead are best learn from previous experience.

    NICE ONE!

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