Yack
I do not understand why you begrudge Steve and Dave’s additional income stream.
I also don’t understand why you are so upset that 120 people chose to attend the seminar.
I personally am insulted that someone that does not know me or my reasons for attending seminars would call me cattle.
Very disappointed.
Leigh K[V]
Carve your own path and lead the way.
Maybe its price and value for money. Its only my perception.
I would be prepared to pay the following –
$1,000 – A classroom with 10-15 people ok.
$350 – A seminar with 120 people.Maybe 120 people in a room is your definition of value for money. I am a shy and retiring type. I have a passion for property investing.
There are many strategies for property investing. I dont need to spend $1000 on each.
Nothing has particularly inspired us to want to go to Steves seminar over another but if I learn just one thing that I can use to improve the way I do things then it will be worth every cent. Just to attend a seminar by a person who had the drive to achieve so much in such a short time will be good on its own. But it also comes down to meeting people who do what you do. You are not alone out there, so why not meet where the like minded meet.Well said siacci! [^]
Cheers
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PropertyGuRu
[] Leigh
As a moderator, are you really parting with $1,000 to attend on Saturday?
Ive just read in the resources section that
“Because this is a seminar our usual 14 Day Money-Back guarantee does not apply”
Im at a loss to understand why Steve would ask for such a large monetary contribution from a number of people (over $100,000 for the day) and yet not guarantee that attendees will receive value for their money. Its this lack of any sort of guarantee that makes me question that the information will be any different from that which is readily available from Steve’s book, this forum, or other online resources for a fraction of the cost. If the information to be presented is of such a high standard and worthy of the attendance fee, why not provide a guarantee that attendees will find ALL of the information they receive worthy of the cost, rather than just the 2 hours before morning tea?
Any thoughts?
Jay.
Originally posted by yack:Maybe its price and value for money. Its only my perception.
I would be prepared to pay the following –
$1,000 – A classroom with 10-15 people ok.
$350 – A seminar with 120 people.Maybe 120 people in a room is your definition of value for money. I am a shy and retiring type. I have a passion for property investing.
There are many strategies for property investing. I dont need to spend $1000 on each.
I think $1k is very cheap. If you look for other seminars they are costing 3000 to 10000 or some time even more.
If you never been to any seminar then you won’t know what you can learn there..
Cheers
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PropertyGuRu
[] Are you comparing Steve to property spruikers now?
I thought Steve has more integrity than that, thats why I am a big wrap for what he does.
Just not at $1000 for a day session with 120 other people.
But if people are prepared to pay that, so be it – I believe in market forces.
Yack
In relation to your numbers… If only!!!!
1. We don’t receive all the proceeds, a small of issue of GST
2. I wish it was as simple as just doing 1 days work. Unfortunately, we have been working on this for 3 weeks.Yes we make money from the event, but it is not quite as easy as you make out.
Good luck to the people coming tomorrow. Hope you learn heaps.
Dave
Originally posted by Jay:Ive just read in the resources section that
“Because this is a seminar our usual 14 Day Money-Back guarantee does not apply”
Im at a loss to understand why Steve would ask for such a large monetary contribution from a number of people (over $100,000 for the day) and yet not guarantee that attendees will receive value for their money. Its this lack of any sort of guarantee that makes me question that the information will be any different from that which is readily available from Steve’s book, this forum, or other online resources for a fraction of the cost. If the information to be presented is of such a high standard and worthy of the attendance fee, why not provide a guarantee that attendees will find ALL of the information they receive worthy of the cost, rather than just the 2 hours before morning tea?
Any thoughts?
Jay.
HI Dave,
Could you comment on my earlier post as to why you dont provide a money back guarantee?
Best wishes,
Jay [
]Hi Jay,
The policy is this way as a previously more liberal approach was blatantly abused.
We feel this is fair. It gives the participant a chance to see what’s on offer and also sets a deadline for making a decision.
As for comments by others – if you feel the cost is too high then it’s simple… don’t come.
Have a great day.
Bye,
Steve McKnight
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Remember that success comes from doing things differently.
**********Steve McKnight | PropertyInvesting.com Pty Ltd | CEO
https://www.propertyinvesting.comSuccess comes from doing things differently
The price charged is in direct proportion to the seriousness the attendee’s approach the use of the information provided.
Dave
Yack,
I tend to agree, that the profits from this seminar are not as simple as you have outline. It does take preparation and time to organise one of these events. Possibly time that could be spent finding more property deals! I look forward to what the guys have to say tomorrow, but who knows, maybe it won’t be that great. I will let you know what I thought of it after the event.
The way I work out my cost is:
900 dollars for the seminar / 2 after I get my tax return = 450 dollars. And like somebody said earlier, if I learn only a few things that will help me get a deal in the future then I think it will be 450 dollars well spent.whatever way you look at it its good money for a seminar. need some cashflow run a seminar. now i know why the teachers a cheesed off (3 weeks prep wow)…
all they are asking is 60k for 45 hr week, 12 mos of the year – doing the same thing
i am being sarcastic if you cant tell
truth is good on you guys for having a product that people want to access….but gee its not bad money….
i hope you serve nice snacks – not just party pies and frankfurters…
income is rarely abt fairness anyway
ask – golfers, boxers, race car drivers, retail employees, mc donalds people and check out chicks.
i think it has something to do with supply and demand and ‘scarcity’ ……
Originally posted by Pisces:>>Julie and I are going too.
Dave<<
>>Guess we’re not invited Property Guru
Judi<<I guess Judi, if your name had been Julie instead of Judi, Dave may well have invited YOU instead of the other Julie. [
]Pisces
Hmmm… You might be on to something Pisces. The only question remaining if I do change my name is “who pays?” [:p]
PS: no offence Dave and Julie.
Originally posted by yack:Let me do some sums that you may learn at the conference or by reading the Book
Rent 120 people at $1000 = $120,000
Less Costs
Rates – room Rental for Day = $5,000 (probably not even that)
Handout Costs – stationery, photcopying $5,000
Staff on day – security $5,000
Other incidentals $5,000
Marketing Costs $5,000Net Gain $95,000
Not bad for a days work. Why drive around rural and regional towns looking for a Ve+ cash flow property in this market.
Why not sell to the herd. The followers.
My hat off to you Steve. There are people obviously keen to pay to hear you. I look forward to meeting you one day but not at a cost of $1,000 to me.
I guess if one willing to pay to know what they don’t know then it is fair. If one not willing to pay then it is up to them.
Yes you can get informations and learning from many source and place, but will one be able to put those together is the question.
Warm Regards
ChanDollars
[The bridge between where you are right now & where you want to be tomorrow is knowledge]Originally posted by siacci:We feel education is very important. I read loads of books, listen to tapes and cd’s from lots of different people. I have attended Dolf De Roos wekend in Sydney, Ricks wrap camp in Brisbane, and John Prattlets Rich Talk Poor Talk in Sydney. Attended quite a few of the so called teaser evenings and enjoyed every one of them. All money well spent.
Nothing has particularly inspired us to want to go to Steves seminar over another but if I learn just one thing that I can use to improve the way I do things then it will be worth every cent. Just to attend a seminar by a person who had the drive to achieve so much in such a short time will be good on its own. But it also comes down to meeting people who do what you do. You are not alone out there, so why not meet where the like minded meet.
Dave
I agreed with you, but sometime if you spend too much on seminar and not use it then it become useless. If you just use one of the strategy that you get out of the seminar that benefit you then it is great.
Warm Regards
ChanDollars
[The bridge between where you are right now & where you want to be tomorrow is knowledge]Originally posted by yack:Maybe its price and value for money. Its only my perception.
I would be prepared to pay the following –
$1,000 – A classroom with 10-15 people ok.
$350 – A seminar with 120 people.Maybe 120 people in a room is your definition of value for money. I am a shy and retiring type. I have a passion for property investing.
There are many strategies for property investing. I dont need to spend $1000 on each.
I think it is fine if you dont’ want to spend $1000, but other willing to pay and hope they get something out of it.
Warm Regards
ChanDollars
[The bridge between where you are right now & where you want to be tomorrow is knowledge]Originally posted by Jay:Ive just read in the resources section that
“Because this is a seminar our usual 14 Day Money-Back guarantee does not apply”
Im at a loss to understand why Steve would ask for such a large monetary contribution from a number of people (over $100,000 for the day) and yet not guarantee that attendees will receive value for their money. Its this lack of any sort of guarantee that makes me question that the information will be any different from that which is readily available from Steve’s book, this forum, or other online resources for a fraction of the cost. If the information to be presented is of such a high standard and worthy of the attendance fee, why not provide a guarantee that attendees will find ALL of the information they receive worthy of the cost, rather than just the 2 hours before morning tea?
Any thoughts?
Jay.
For me if you question what will be present at the seminar that is not worth the money then just don’t go.
Warm Regards
ChanDollars
[The bridge between where you are right now & where you want to be tomorrow is knowledge]Well, at least he is not giving a guarantee that he has no intention of fulfiling. And at least he is telling you up front that if you don’t like it, you don’t get your money back. Sounds honest to me.
If you don’t like the conditions, don’t go.
I am not going.
Go Cats.
Bec
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