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    Crunch some numbers! Will 10 to 20% of bank value spent on reno's add more than that to the property when finished? It will certainly help lift your rent? From what I understand you can depreciate the work and get a new valuation spending that sort of $$ which may give more instant equity? Try and stay at 10% if you can and  work with creative people, don't just repair change the layout if you can to change the whole appeal!

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    I understand freeing up funds to use elsewhere eg non deductable debt which I presume is your PPD. How though is using debt to pay debt turn neg into positive cashflow on an IP?
    Also by freeing up money that may be used to service another IP what of the equity being tapped into if you were going to leverage off that?
     I've read about IP's funding themselves and "buying time" when capitalising interest. But if the 7% capital growth is correct you may literally have to wait years to leverage especially in a downturn, is that correct? Has anyone capitalised on an IP with success?

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    Tenants also like feeling secure screens on doors a must for me. Also if you can afford it aircon, it may sound like alot but tenants will pay more for aircon, its actually not that expensive just shop around. If the place is old mind you better check the board to make sure theres enough amps!

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    Thankyou for your comments, food for thought!

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    Good on ya buddy thats the only way to save when building! All the best!

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    Hey Paul Just wanted to know if $150k was for the house complete? That figure sounds alot less than the norm unless your owner building which I have just finished and came in higher than that. If it is higher it of course changes the figures especially your outlay each month.
    Cheers

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    Thanks maree, do you know if renovations done are deductable? Or can be depreciated?

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    Why a cash deposit trakka? Sorry if this is basic stuff, I know it must be to you and many who have been there, but I'm learning as I go and although I am a bit imbarrassed not knowing these things I'd still rather ask?

    When you talk of cross-collateralising, is that for asset protection?

    From what I've read if you are not a trust but have many lenders to avoid cross-collateralising if one defaults that bank will have access to the other IP's or whatever it needs to get its money no matter who the lender is? Does this sound right?
    If I was to stay with one lender is there such a thing as sub accounts for different IP's, and is it easier to capitalise on the increasing values of your properties with the one lender?

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    Your right that is a thing of beauty! I must admit I had to read it a couple of times for it to sink in!
    When you went back to the vendor and asked for more at 9% you mentioned 12% that would have been through a lender?
    I have just signed for my first IP and it is a lot less $$ wise than your one you've detailed. Did you work your way up to the 500k 600k etc.. Is it on the back of years of experience and many IP's or do you just go through the numbers no matter the price range?
    Also wanted to ask if my first IP is pos+ cash and there being no effect on my servicability, how do I go about getting a deposit again? I used equity in my home for this one, I am being pro active with renos to increase rental yeild it all looks very good to me although I am no pro! Would I have to reval after renos which my broker said I could and then use that equity to go again? What is the quickest way to move forward? The reason I ask is I have another lined up.

    Love to hear your thoughts!

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    Thanks terry very insightful. Just finished with my accountant she suggested a family dicretionary trust. In her opinion hybrid is frowned upon by ATO and new laws have come in  and according to her they will become a thing of the past! What I meant by sole trader was in a partnership my income is split, if I decide to be a sole trader I will have greater serviceability wont I? As well as droping my girl to the lower income bracket to benifit from the trust as a benificiary. I am new to this but is that a basic understanding?
    My brother and his wife are in the top brackets so he cannot see any beifit to him as far as benificiares are concerned, the only good thing to him in this trust is pooling funds and asset protection.

    My accountant also has many IP's in her name and says she has all the insurance and is not worried at all about being sued!

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    Your right, a little money and time spent could save thousands in the future!
    I have just finished owner building and being a tradie have a fairly good idea of costs involved in reno's. When you talk about being ripped off on purchase or rent can you please elabourate? Or are you talking about not seeing the property in person?

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    Thanks for the advice. No's sold 120 last 12 mths days on market 55. Understand about glitzy places and dumps! In this area $250k and under need work. 4 agencies have 2/3% vacancy rate, all have said under $300 a week go within the week. One said 300 rentals on their books 1 available at that price. Veiwing comparable properties are'nt an option as I am 7 hrs away, when investors look at properties outside their area how do they go ahead with them, surely they dont fly or drive to every area to inspect, then again maybe they do!

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    trakka wrote:
    My personal favourite strategy is to have both  by manufacturing growth and increasing rental return after purchase. True, it's not easy, but if you look at enough properties and if you even find one per year, you'll be on the road to wealth. I do believe the commercial arena provides more opportunities for using this strategy, and you don't necessarily need big bucks.

    Just this month I've negotiated to purchase a property with the following numbers: purchase price $600K, vendor finance $150K (25%, 9% interest payable monthly, balloon payment at 1 year), yield at settlement 9.5%. The yield is high because the property is specialist and commercial properties usually get more rent in their specialist capacity than they would as a general property (ie a space usable for a variety of uses). So the logic in pricing it was that if properties in the area yield 7.5% (it is a regional area), then this one (being specialist) was capitalised using a higher yield because of its specialisation, and that's how the vendor and agent came up with the asking price.

    The really fabulous twist, from my perspective, was that the selling agent and/or vendor didn't know enough about other commercial rents in the area. My research revealed that if the specialist fittings were ripped out (which can be done quite easily), I'd actually get more rent as a warehouse than in its current specialist use – ie the current rent is significantly under market.

    So the real market value of the property is actually about $800K. I took all the figures to my lender, who will only lend on purchase price at settlement, but agreed that in a year's time, when my vendor finance becomes due, they'll lend against the value as a warehouse – which should mean I can pay out the vendor finance without having to put in any cash.

    Therefore in 1 years' time, I'll have a 100% financed property, still slightly cashflow positive, and becoming more cashflow positive each year. I believe that it will have some good capital growth because of some development in the area, but even if it has no capital growth – I've put in no money, it's not impacted my servicability one iota, it pays for itself, and in time the positive cashflow will be significant.

    Now, off to find some more of those deals….

    Hey trakka I'm fairly new to the IP arena can you please explain when you talk about vendor finance, ballon payment 100% finance, it being monthly payments yet your not putting any money in?

    I understand the bank see the potential it has as a warehouse its just the middle part that you lost me!

    Love to learn more

    nejas

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