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    Title:No ROI with Roy!

    Agree with Chris totally.

    Roy’s typical opening line of his course is: 95% people in this room (in the seminar with him) will rely on pension when they retire. Only 5% will ‘make it’. What are you going to do with the rest of your life?

    He first triggers your fear. Then he brags very intelligently to show you how he has made it to the 5% group, which provokes the desire. Fear and desire, what else better to manipulate people?

    To really get Roy to sit down and work with you (for a while), I reckon you have to buy ALL his up-sale expensive programs, like the Quantum package and Diamond,etc. Why not passion99 tell us first how much s/he has paid Roy? Most people don’t have such money to squander.

    The only reason Roy can sleep at night is because he has a good bunch of people like passion99 under his spell so that he is not reminded of his own shadow sides, that he is actually a con artist, albeit not a stupid one.

    The people who are doing great work always go extra miles to over deliver. Roy does the opposite, he under delivers and covers that with his next big promises.

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    Hi Everyone,

    From what I have read the posts since 2006 in this forum, the things Roy Macdonald sells have changed a bit, but how he operates to suck people’s money remains more or less the same.

    We paid about 10K to do his (less than) 4-day ‘One Life Magic’ programme at his property in the Hunter Valley. 70% of the time was about personal development. Imagine in a setting where 180 people were served by around 20 staff, how deep could personal development work? The rest of the 30% was about wealth education, which was very general. He basically wants to up-sell his ‘Quantum Package’ (including Quantum Property, Quantum Trading and Quantum Being) to people, which costs around 25K. The food was OK and the accommodation was cheap. Yes, I did learn a few things but it was absolutely not worth the money, I think he does not deserve making such money for what he delivered. He promised a lot and he is good at seducing people to believe him by those techniques mentioned by other members above.

    These days he also does direct marketing, which includes ACN, Isagenix and his very own OneLife Direct. He recruits people to join and become his downline at his events, promising that he will provide clients to all his downlines. All his staff are doing these things with him.

    From my observation, Roy is NOT a real thing. Sure, he is very wealthy and knowledgeable in the area of wealth creation, he is certainly a clever self-made millionaire and he loves his family. But he is a man who cannot say ‘I don’t know’. Personally, I have witnessed when he was challenged and how he could not admit his fault and instead, he tried to overpower and make wrong people who rightly challenged him. He is quite ego-centric. All his events are, to a large extent, to show off his ego, and he does that so skilfully. Given his manipulative behaviours, he is not ethical deep at his core. Poor thing, he does not even know that he is fooling himself in spite of his ‘success’ on the surface.

    It is likely that Roy can still work his ‘magic wand’ at other people, for better or worse. I have met some people who are doing the Quantum package, they don’t seem to experience the same thing with Roy and they are in fact quite nice people. Nevertheless, Roy is very good at giving his audience some ‘carrots’ to hook up people’s greed and naiveness. These carrots could look like a very attractive $29 double entry to his one-day event, which includes lunch and refreshments. The carrots could also be his bragging about how much revenue his company generates each day or he can provide clients for you, etc. In particular, he is an expert in making you feel special. Be aware when you see him do these tricks.

    Having said that, I believe those of us who feel we are cheated by him, one way or anther, have something valuable to learn about ourselves. For me, I certainly will be so much more cautious and trust my gut next time when I sense something dodgy with someone.

    Above all, do research before signing up anything!!!

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    HI guys,

    really appreciate your opinions :)

    Have already read Jamie's article too. 

    We are on our way to be educated investors. Hopefully our roads will cross some time later.

    Cheers

    Jekjoy

    Profile photo of jekjoyjekjoy
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    Hi everyone,

    I am new here and this is my first post! (because I see I can contribute something…smiley)

    I've just been to her one day free seminar in Sydney. As a total novice in real estate, I found her information useful. I singed up for her $5000 program. However, after I did quite some research on the internet, I decided to return the program. I reckon that a lot of information is already out there. When it comes to more personal tailored and professional advice, I am prepared to pay for the service elsewhere in the future. This is just my personal choice, partially also because that I am a bit short of cash at the moment. 

    Cheers

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