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  • Profile photo of Krazy_karlKrazy_karl
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    Hi all,
    Been trying to do my homework and have stumbled onto these forums. I’m wondering if anyone has an advice to my current situation.

    I’m in my early 20s and am trying to break into the property investing world. Currently, I’m just building up saving and working on a deposit. I’ve just started my new job over in WA in the mines which pays quite well. I’m still living with the parents which suits my fly in fly out lifestyle and won’t be changing that anytime soon.

    Ok. So first things first, ive heard from most people 20% deposit is the way to go and will save me money not having to get mortgage insurance. I know banks do 10%, is it worth getting in quicker or holding off a little while longer? I’m getting taxed pretty heavy, negative gearing would be a good thing for me yes? .

    I can comfortably save around $8000 a month and looking to spend around $400000 on the first house. Should I be speaking advice from a financial planner? Also if anyone has an links to webpages on the basics Id love to read them.

    Thanks
    Karl

    Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    Hi Karl

    Welcome aboard.

    What's your longer term plan? I assume being on an investment forum you're considering building a portfolio?

    I actually don't mind paying mortgage insurance  – if leveraged correctly it can be a great way to quickly build a portfolio.

    You asked for links – so here some are:

    This about leveraging mortgage insurance.

    Why a 20% deposit is not always a good idea.

    Hope these help.

    p.s – a financial planner is not the right person for your situation – instead you should speak with a decent broker about your future plans and what's achievable (I know, I know – sounds biased).

    Cheers

    Jamie

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    Profile photo of ducksterduckster
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    what is a good idea is finding out what the stamp duty is going to be for a $400,000 house.
    this is a cost as well you will incur and can be found out from your State Revenue office web page.

    Profile photo of kong71286kong71286
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    To answer your question, it depends on what is happening in the market

    Are property prices likely to go up or down in the area you are looking to purchase in, within the specified timeframe it would take for you to save a 20% deposit i.e. $80,000?

    If you think property prices will increase, then it might be better to borrow more money e.g. 90% LVR (provided property will increase by more than LVR paid)

    If on the other hand, property prices are likely to remain the same or decline, then it would be best to wait to save for a 20% deposit, so that you can not only save on LMI but also benefit from the increase in purchasing power of your dollars (relative to property)

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    what is a good idea is finding out what the stamp duty is going to be for a $400,000 house.
    this is a cost as well you will incur and can be found out from your State Revenue office web page.
    in WA it will be $13,015.

    Some rough figures to go on
    A mortgage broker can work these figures out for you if you use one

    So Borrow 321,713.50  with a deposit of $91,301.50 to reach LVR 80% borrowing also $13,015 stamp duty cost

    compared to say as an example 10% deposit stamp duty WA

    so  borrow $361,879.50 (90%) then $56,877.50 deposit (10%) and estimated LMI of $5760 stamp duty of $13.015
    LMI and stamp duty is borrowed ) deposit amount  to be a little higher for lvr 90% to cover stamp duty and LMI

    http://www.genworth.com.au/homebuyer-centre/tips-for-homebuyers
    If it is an investment property you want to use other peoples money not your savings to get more leverage
    Also you can capitalize the LMI and borrow for the stamp duty also

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