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  • Profile photo of MuktaMukta
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    Hi guys,

    Just read some fantastic ideas on making neutral cashflow properties into positive like-

    pay more in deposit and lower the interest rate
    claiming purchase expenses at tax time

    I am looking madly and finding a few ‘nearlys”
    and am only new so I would be very grateful for more ideas.(read lots on increasing rents)

    Please help everything I find is $20,000 too much
    I know positive cashflow is to be made not found
    There must be a ton of other ways.

    Thanks guys
    Kind Regards

    Paula

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    Paula,

    Don’t forget depreciation. This could be significant for a fairly new building.

    Also, Interest only loans help.

    “everything I find is $20,000 too much”

    Try offering $20K less!

    As you have mentioned add value to increase rent.

    hrm

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    Minor cosmetic renovations can up the rent to tip the property into positive territory, also creating another bedroom and maybe even supplying something like whitegoods or Foxtel for a price that’s more than the cost can help with cashflow.

    Getting new tenants at the market rate is good too, but like HM said offering $20k less and getting an interest only loan is one of the best and easiest ways to help with a properties cashflow.

    I’m sure you’ll get heaps of suggestions, good thought provoking post aswell…Good Luck…G7

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    Hi G7 and hrm,

    Thankyou for your great advise, you have sparked some other questions if you could help me with I would be very appreciative.

    Offering $20,000 less- is this considered lowballing or is that common practise?

    You mentioned depreciation- how old does the building have to be and how would I work this out?

    Could I claim the purchase costs at tax time?

    Thankyou once again I am looking forward to your replys.
    Kind Regards

    Paula

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    Paula,

    Answers:

    Offering $20K less, you don.t ask you don’t get. Make the offer and see what happens.

    Depreciation. 2 types: building @2.5% per year, and fixtures like floor coverings, cupboards, appliances, light fittings, swim pool, security etc. variable rates.

    Perhaps you could PM Scott at “Depreciator”, he’s a member on this forum and I have used and recommend his company for setting up depreciation schedule.

    Claiming purchase costs at tax time: I am not a 100 % sure but I think its over 5 years, but another Q that Scott can answer. Good luck.

    hrm

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    Just read some fantastic ideas on making neutral cashflow properties into positive like-

    pay more in deposit and lower the interest rate

    I never “get” this [blink].

    How can a higher deposit turn a neutral cashflow property into a +CF one?
    I mean, the deposit is YOUR money- I always thought that a CF+ property was a property that gave you an income (even if it was just 5 cents a week)based on the whole purchase amount , not just on the amount you borrow. I thought it was all about yield.

    If that was the case, then basically, ANY negatively geared property could be called a CF+ property as long as you pay a deposit big enough so that the interest you pay on your borrowings will be less than the net rental income.

    Am I missing something?[confused2]

    Celivia

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    I’m with Celivia.

    Plus, it doesn’t seem like an efficient use of funds. The extra deposit you put in to make it appear +ve could be otherwise put towards a deposit on another property. I suppose it depends on your plan, and whether you intend to buy more properties, in which case some investors would normally maximise their leverage by putting in miminum funds.

    Wake

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