- kpMember@kpJoin Date: 2004Post Count: 509Originally posted by DannyBoi:
Originally posted by Dazzling:
“You can’t teach new dogs old tricks”.
Are you aware that the more well known saying is “You can’t teach old dogs new tricks”. This really seems to be true in your case. You are way too opinionated for your own good.
I could argue with you all day but there is no point. After all you are an old dog!
Danny boi oh danny boi….I think you’ve missed the point.
Everyone knows what the ‘more common’ saying is…including Warren Buffet.
His cryptic saying was in context of all the new dogs who have forgotton the fundamentals of investing that are timeless and still hold true today. Of course he is speaking more specifically about the stock market, but the analogy also applies to property investing.
Buffet is currently sitting on billions in cash as he can’t find anything worthwhile that meets his criteria, to invest in.
Now that says something…….
kpPursefattenerMember@pursefattenerJoin Date: 2004Post Count: 217
Good on you for having saved 10k.
I would not put this in a ‘white bread investment, (managed fund)
Save up a bit more and check out a couple of mortgage brokers to see what you could do.
I’m with dazz on the move out of home thing. I had flown the coup when I was 18 and have no regrets. BTW , what do you do if mum comes home unexpectedly when the girlfriends around?????
Jump out the window?
Good luck and keep up the saving habit.
ShawnBob DobelinaParticipant@bob-dobelinaJoin Date: 2005Post Count: 27
You know Prophecy, I think some folks reckon you might be taking the pith if you stay at home where your costs are low. While staying at your familyâ€™s place is a superb way to save, I agree that you canâ€™t do it forever – but you never said you were going to stay at home till all your teeth fell out did you?
I think you have created a great opportunity. I imagine your borrowing capacity looks pretty good at this point and you might qualify for the FHOG. I donâ€™t blame you for taking the opportunity you have. I also know a guy who left home, then came back and started saving a deposit. His parents were ok with this â€“ up to a point, and then they started dropping hints for him to leave. Anyway, he went out and got a place and in the third year of ownership the value of his place is about $100K ahead of the loanâ€™s outstanding balance.
I know another guy who has two brothers and they are going to live together while each buys a house in turn, with all of them slaughtering the loan on one before moving on to the next. Apart from having to be very careful with their tax returns, it should be a good strategy.
I know yet another whose parents let him mind their house for a year â€“ no costs except for a weekly cleaner they insisted he hire â€“ while he put his own place on the rental market and made extra repayments!
I donâ€™t begrudge them these opportunities. Your parents will no doubt indicate it to you when they consider you to be sponging. In addition, you will make your own determination regarding how uncool it is to still be there.
If you are keen to get into the market and have a place you can call your own (which many seem to have implied you are not) then go for it, get in the market! You will have something to put in the â€œAâ€ side of your A&L (thatâ€™s not Kiyosakiâ€™s definition of an asset but people with low debt on their own homes can have pretty decent net worth and that can allow you to do Good Things). Just ensure the â€œLâ€ side doesnâ€™t get too big and – as Steve would tell you – get that income cranking too.
Oh BTW sometimes owning property will feel like an invitation for a number of organisations to put their hands in your pocket. But I guess thatâ€™s why you have to buy winning properties not lemons.
Some posters have said â€˜read plenty of booksâ€™. If you havenâ€™t already you should. And learn from this website. Then do something. As Steve said in his latest newsletter:
â€œâ€¦ when it comes to investing, while a solid education in the basics is very, very important, the best way to learn is in the field.â€
Getting out there and having a go is invigorating (read: scary), educational and empowering. Itâ€™s an adventure and it rocks. But you donâ€™t need me to tell you that, youâ€™ve travelled and you know that sometimes stepping out of your comfort zone shows you how silly you were to be afraid in the first place.
I say go back to some of those early replies to your post and consider them but only insofar as they suggest ways of being smart about your move into the market .
PS I hope that by offering you my 10 Euro’s worth with my right hand I didn’t poke you in the eye with my left.grossrealisationMember@grossrealisationJoin Date: 2005Post Count: 1,031
I like the euro bit and good advice.
here to helpinvestronMember@investronJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 92
old dazzling, you took the – you’ve got to be cruel to be kind approach.
everything you said should have been taken as encouragement.
don’t spit the dummy, we all help in our own way.prophecyMember@prophecyJoin Date: 2005Post Count: 5
Thanks very much for your long reply conatining much insight. You have definately given me ideas for thought and have added fuel to my fire to enter into the investing arena.
To everyone else i thank you again also.
By the way I now realise that i should have appreciated Dazzlings post and I will make a concerted effort not to knock back peoples insights good or bad in the future. Apoologies for seeming ungrateful Dazzling and also everyone else.
My most recent idea is to purchase a house on a medium size block with enough room to subdivide. Bye the house on a long settlement, subdived during settlement, use my FHOG to bye the house and move out with some friends…and have hopefully some nice equity built up. Any ideas or suggestions would be great..again.
TravEndless SummerMember@endless-summerJoin Date: 2005Post Count: 62
Trav, excellent idea. Do that asap.
Dazzling, I think you were spot on. I could not have put it better myself and nobody else did either – unfortunately for Trav.
Trav, you are in a real window of opportunity here at 22 years of age. Get out of home asap. Even though you are saving being at home – it may be costing you more than you realise. I believe a person in their 20’s has an enormous amount of energy that in my oponion is wasted if they stay at home – even if they do not realise it at the time.
Just an opinion, but focusing on (really focusing on) getting out asap with your first purchase will reward you may times over now and later in life.
So look for that house with a subdividable back yard and go for it.DannyboyParticipant@dannyboyJoin Date: 2005Post Count: 60
Having thought about it a little, I apologise what i said to Dazzling earlier.
There are way too many comfort zones to challenge if you live at home. Free meals, free rent etc… It is way too easy to get used to these benifites and you can get in danger of being lazy.
Good luck with your first purchase prophecy, and I look forward to hearing from you on this forum in the future.