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    duckster wrote:
    Capital gains tax if capital gain achieved for the original owner of their sold share.
    State Government land transfer duty. (check SRO in your state or google stamp duty calculator
    Legal costs for use of solicitor for transfer of ownership.

    Hard to lower costs unless property was set up in a trust owned by a company structure when purchased originally.
    Costs about $5000 to set up trust and shelf company -you would  need to talk to an accountant about it before joint ownership entered into.

    thanks duckster
    i will check for sro in victoria

    looks like thats fair bit of cost involved in doing that unless u setup a company which is complex process ..

    is there any here who can advise on how to setup the trust or can do this …

    for example in case of transfer from a to b

    who has to bear these costs

    both or person b to whom its being transferred to ..

    thanks
    s

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    guys any one on these

    any tips , precautionary measures , tales

    pretty sure there would be many things to look at

    tenent stories

    sri

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    illuminati wrote:
    what you are writing down seems very sporadically written, i am in a bit of a rush, but ill check it again and go over it when i get home from work. but did you take into account how much the rent brings in?

    basically think of tax benefits as extras. get the rental income-the loan repayments and property costs (rates etc) to lower the loan repayments you can increase the deposit to greater tehn 10%.

    tax benefits are like a secondary benefit, depreciation income losses etc can be used to lower how much personal income tax you pay.

    ill check your numbers when i get home.

    hi iliminati and others

    thanks for your replies

    even I am pretty confident – IP is far better than banks

    just trying to get my numbers right

    as the example I have used has freaked me a bit

    illuminati

    waiting for your advice

    thanks

    sri

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    guys

    any one on this

    penti99

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    Matt007 wrote:
    Thanks Intrigue – Sri can you clarify whether you are talking about buying 'off the plan' or actual land banking as they're two separate things requiring two separate strategies.

    DA=Development Application
    MCU=Material Change of Use
    They're only relevant if you're looking at land/sites with development potential.

    Thanks,
    Matt.


    thanks intrigue and matt

    yes I am referring to investing off plan

    sorry If have used wrong term for it …

    its confusing

    one example is

    lets say melton

    if I buy a land there now

    for some of them titles arent untill middle of next or may be later

    then

    i would onsell to some one before titles are released

    what would be process

    my understanding is

    both parties settle on same day

    i would have pay stamp duty  and cg tax on profit made

    but there would be more in this process

    considering all this — doesnt look worth the hassle for the profit made ( unless a good one )

    intrugue — so i should have an option to buy land as an 'option' rather than purchase

    can you explain on 'nominee' part

    thanks
    sri

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    Matt007 wrote:
    What sort of document are you using to 'control' the land with your 10%? Option? Some other form of agreement? IT all comes down to how you did it in the first place. Without knowing the details its hard to give any kind of suggestions or estimates on what's possible or not possible.

    As JacM suggests, if you find a piece of land elligible for rezoning, control it via an option or similar type of contractual document, either do the DA/MCU or onsell in a few years (if you get that long from the vendor) to someone else who wants to settle for a higher price, then yes you will make some profit, being the difference for what you offered to pay under the agreement, and what you can onsell it for, although you're liable for stamp duty on the option fee (in Qld anyway not sure about other states).

    You could in theory settle simultaneously, both contracts settling on the same day. Comes down to the conveyancing and lawyers instructions.

    It all depends on a) how you've controlled the land, and b) how well you've chosen the land. Doing it with any old block with no potential at all is not going to get you far.

    hi matt

    thanks

    what are 'da'/mcu documents

    can you explain further

    what do I need to ask the REA agent to see if there is a possibility of on-sell

    thanks again
    sri

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    hi jacM

    thanks for your reply … thats helpful .. thanks for the insight but I think i might have confused you

    I have heard people doing it …

    here is how it goes

    I sign for a land  with 10% deposit …

    it has no title

    and title is a bit far away – lets say 2 years …

    I am not going to borrow 90% from bank

    lets say the land value has gone up by 30 K and I have decied to sell after one year

    I havent settled the land on my name at this stage

    what would  be costs involved

    would I settle and the next person settle on the same day …

    can any make any profit out of this ….

    enlighten me please …

    sri

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    hi catalyst

    u are right .. but I think I might have confused u a bit there

    what I meant was – 2 ip's ( paying for themselves )

    and completely paying off my ppor

    richard

    thanks for your advise…

    when u say loan structuring – do you mean refinancing

    I know that I dont have much to play with …

    after some serious look

    i have shortlisted the following

    suggestions please

    if I cant get – zone1 ( melbourne ) 1 bed apartments ( not student accomdation as banks cant lend me )

    buying land and onsell

    looking at regional properties ( returning good rental yeild )

    pros and cons on above ..

    any others can you suggest

    one quesiton with negative gearing : how much % of negative gearing can you claim

    what can be claimed on inv property and what cant be ….

    waiting for your reply

    penti

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    hi richard

    thanks for your reply…

    i have been thru some posts .. its not been postive about cbd apartments ….

    within my budget of 200 – 250 k max …

    what else I can look for as a safe bet ….
    i have been looking at suburbs like melton ….but cannot decide either go for suburban property or for a cbd one …

    as I am not much concerned about capital gains but want a hassle free property with decent returns …

    where can I find a list of areas where I can invest modest 200 k with decent return and capital gains …

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    hi

    i am a newbie and completely rookie to investing

    i want to start building my portfolio by looking at 1 bed or 2 bed apartments in melbourne cbd

    but very much confused with lots of questions … need help

    why people dont consider cbd 1 bed or 2 bed properties … is it because they dont appreciate ….

    what are the pros and cons of cbd 1 bed or 2 bed apts … especially serviced or hotel leased one’s

    i have been to some seminars and gone thru net .. but that has confused me more

    i have a bit a equity built on my ppor …

    i want to use it and borrow the gap to buy 1 or 2 bed within a budget of 200 k max

    the ppor is in both my of our names ( me and wife) but I am the only bread winner as we have a baby ….

    so cant take a bigger risk … but keen to get into property market so it felt like cbd properties are within my reach …

    seen some properties with 6.5 to 9.2% returns but cant understand what will be the outgoings

    any possible litigations with these type of investments….

    not expecting much capital appreciation but if the ip pays for f or with a bit of positive gearing – that will be great

    thanks heaps

    sri

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