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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum bumskins wrote:
 Depends</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:57:43 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bumskins wrote:<br />
Depends really.  There is a lot leverage in property.  So if you looked at say $100,000 invested in Property Vs Shares.  It might look like:  Property (80% LVR) $500K &#8211; 6% = $470K, $30K loss. Loss on $100K Principal = 30%  Since the person investing in shares probably had little to no leverage, their portfolio would have to have&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-239013"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/43/#post-4549269" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic The steps to watch for in the coming Australian housing correction in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 11:48:02 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZSlaveski wrote:<br />
It&#039;s so great to see this talk about the crash becoming more prominent in forums like this one.</p>
<p>The talk about a crash was always here to see, what we did not see was the crash. <img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/laugh.gif?x75824" alt="" /></p>
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I can smell the fear. It’s palpable on the Australian Property Forum where the desperate bulls and spruikers are frantically posting threads t&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-259738"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4403251-the-steps-to-watch-for-in-the-coming-australian-housing-correction/page/6/#post-4645138" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 11:07:13 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:<br />
There will likely still be a panic satage in the coming year where the average punter/investor realises this and tries to sell &#8211; this will seem like a crash for a little while.</p>
<p>What would you say will likely cause the average punter/investor to panic , rising rental returns ? <img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/tongue2.gif?x75824" alt="" /> I believe that your average punter/investor would be&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-230413"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/38/#post-4549170" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 10:42:55 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realestateedu.com.au wrote:<br />
Hi Garb,  This will b my last communication with you.</p>
<p>Yeah, whatever. </p>
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&#8230; I have done the hard yards including 4 corporation licenses and 3 diplomas but to someone like u that makes no difference because u will always find a way to put others down to make yourself look or seem larger that what u r.  The only&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-230412"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/38/#post-4549169" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum realestateedu.com.au</title>
				<link>https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/5/#post-4626634</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:31:23 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realestateedu.com.au wrote:<br />
Aussie dollar at 97.6 and inflation kicking in &#8230; higher taxes, governments running out of money, grow yr own veggies and raise goats hehe</p>
<p>Yeah , let all stock up on baked beans and head for the hill (again)</p>
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If property prices double who will afford it?</p>
<p>People who&#039;s incomes will also double ? I&#039;ve heard the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-196803"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/5/#post-4626634" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
				<link>https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549142</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:24:01 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realestateedu.com.au wrote:<br />
Hi Harb,   You sound sooo wise so how many houses have you built?</p>
<p>Geez thanks Phil,  you think I&#039; m ready to write a few get rich quick books and hit the personal development circuit to flog them to suckers looking for the magic secret to wealth and happiness ?  You sound alright too, from your blog page it  looks li&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-57788"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549142" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
				<link>https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549136</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:43:41 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:<br />
Interesting conundrum you present Harb.If the rich are downgrading, this would put more pressure on the lower end right?</p>
<p>But are they downgrading or just staying put which is causing the lower end pressure?</p>
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If there is more pressure on the lower end you suggest an OS of lower end property could arise like it has in the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-57783"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549136" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
				<link>https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549135</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:26:13 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realestateedu.com.au wrote:<br />
Hi Harb,  Firstly I cannot understand why you are so sarcastic in your responses</p>
<p>Perhaps you are just feeling tired after the round the world trip and think I was sarcastic ? <img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/tongue.gif?x75824" width="" height="" alt=":P" title=":P" class="bbcode_smiley" /></p>
<p>Quote:<br />
 When you get a quote of $200K from AVJ the end price will be $300K</p>
<p>Fair enough , except that even today in today&#039;s dollars you can&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-57782"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549135" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 04:28:06 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realestateedu.com.au wrote:<br />
Hi Harb,  Sorry I didn&#039;t go for the solid gold fittings</p>
<p>I&#039;m sure you are , probably wish you went something like thishttp://www.allweirdthings.com/hongkongs-100-gold-bathroom/because now Instead of a depreciating asset you&#039;d have a building that has appreciated at the same rate as the land beneath it.&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-57777"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549130" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
				<link>https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549128</link>
				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:11:32 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realestateedu.com.au wrote:<br />
HHmmm good points here however,  How long is a piece of string?  I bought an old sh.tter in 2000 knocked it down built a 40 square pool 3 marble baths and am up one million profit HOWEVER  If I had to upgrade in the same suburb (Hunters Hill) i  need another 500K </p>
<p>How about if  you bought it and rent it as it was, o&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-57775"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549128" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:28:59 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmh454 wrote:<br />
can you guys point out the quote where I said they bought OVER ten years ago. I said IN THE LAST TEN years..AGAIN  last ten years&#8230;think about it ..maybe the light will go on&#8230;somehow doubt it</p>
<p>OK, give us an example of someone who bought in Sydney 9 years ago and is still bleeding now then.  9 years ago is  &quot;IN THE LAST TEN ye&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-57774"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/36/#post-4549127" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum gmh454 wrote:Harb, I give</title>
				<link>https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/35/#post-4549122</link>
				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:16:04 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmh454 wrote:<br />
Harb, I give up, I talk apples and you quote me as oranges&#8230;.I try to get back to apples and you turn them into grapefruits.</p>
<p>Sorry gmh454 but  why bring up these fruits ? Are your clients ( who bought property 10 years ago and are still bleeding)  invested in orchards and lost money due to drought or a cut in water rights ?  I wa&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-164200"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/35/#post-4549122" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
				<link>https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/35/#post-4549117</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:24:25 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmh454 wrote:<br />
Harb you are killing me.This poor naive client (who has a Harvard MBA and beat Kerry on a deal) then did the the followingbought another Mosman property and resold it for 300k profit before settling,</p>
<p>Well done.</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
bought in central highlands 65 acres, for around 650k, did close to 1m improvements then sold for low 3s</p>
<p>Well&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-259546"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/35/#post-4549117" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic October 09 Property Crash Begins in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:01:45 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WJ Hooker wrote:<br />
harb and DWolfe,I was wrong&#8230;there I said it.</p>
<p>No worries W.J, it sometimes happens to everyone. <img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/smile.gif?x75824" width="" height="" alt=":)" title=":)" class="bbcode_smiley" /></p>
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But don&#039;t call victory just yet, the fat lady hasn&#039;t sung yet..the world economy is going to catch up with us sooner or later. Lets see how prices are going in another few month&#039;s.</p>
<p>What do you expect to change over the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-271661"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4397378-october-09-property-crash-begins/page/8/#post-4609725" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum SydneySider2000 wrote:
From</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:49:15 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SydneySider2000 wrote:<br />
From a naive person point of view who had purchased residential property in 1999 in Inner West Sydney without any advice from any financial advisor, I can say that my property has more than doubled.  Even if I had to sell it now.</p>
<p>You are not alone SydneySider2000,  short of some rare unfortunate case of bad luck e&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-152482"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/35/#post-4549115" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum gmh454 wrote:harb</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 14:45:29 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmh454 wrote:</p>
<p>harb wrote:</p>
<p>gmh454 wrote:<br />
The thing I am seeing this year, is that for those (most of them) who bought a property in the last 10 years, they are all bleeding. Now I know that is because they are not clever little cashflow + types, I guess they went to the wrong seminar, &#8211; the neg gearing one.</p>
<p>You sure its 10 years ? Even&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-100886"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/35/#post-4549113" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum simple wrote:We see same</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:42:31 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple wrote:<br />
We see same situation totally different obviously based on our education and experience. So we shall keep this thread &#039;life&#039; and  see how it will develop.</p>
<p>I agree, it is a an excellent thread and by keeping it life it shows the folly of listening to doom and gloom merchants.  I still remember 1986 when some of these D&amp;G m&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-202804"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/34/#post-4549103" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic October 09 Property Crash Begins in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 02:54:18 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WJ Hooker wrote:<br />
Almost 1 year since posting.Lets see now<a href="http://www.news.com.au/money/property/house-prices-dip-and-will-fall-further/story-e6frfmd0-1225932622360?area=money-sub-one" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au/money/property/house-prices-dip-and-will-fall-further/story-e6frfmd0-1225932622360?area=money-sub-one</a>House prices down 0.2% see I told you so&#8230;.LOL&#8230; I rest my case&#8230;Just joking..but still  If inflation is at say 3% then really the loss is 3.2% roughly. So I&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-220127"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4397378-october-09-property-crash-begins/page/7/#post-4609719" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum simple wrote:on the other</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 02:40:02 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple wrote:<br />
on the other hand we have gravity of reality that general public cannot stand futher price rises in RE.</p>
<p>Don&#039;t want to be picky simple but how did you work that out ?  </p>
<p>Quote:<br />
Wage to House Price ration is way out, it must return to &#039;normal&#039; trend at some point&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe what you call &quot;normal&quot; was actually &quot;lower then normal&quot;  L&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-253735"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/34/#post-4549100" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 05:58:14 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmh454 wrote:<br />
The thing I am seeing this year, is that for those (most of them) who bought a property in the last 10 years, they are all bleeding. Now I know that is because they are not clever little cashflow + types, I guess they went to the wrong seminar, &#8211; the neg gearing one.</p>
<p>You sure its 10 years ? Even Sydney and Melbourne buyers are way&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-267885"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/34/#post-4549097" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 05:45:39 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple wrote:<br />
<a href="http://www.news.com.au/money/property/house-prices-dip-and-will-fall-further/story-e6frfmd0-1225932622360Seems" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au/money/property/house-prices-dip-and-will-fall-further/story-e6frfmd0-1225932622360Seems</a> like FHOG stemulus effect started to wear off. We need few more IR hikes and Austalian RE will follow USA trend.Interesting that AU lags 3-4 years behing US&#8230;</p>
<p>What does the  &quot;FHOG stemulus&quot;  has to do with almost $3M a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-267884"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/34/#post-4549096" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic australia is has an oversupply of properties and not an undersupply. in the forum eloi wrote: but</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:00:47 +0000</pubDate>

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 but unfortunatly the bubble has to pop some time</p>
<p>what bubble ?  </p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Is this legal? in the forum Legal &#38; Accounting</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:58:59 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>_joyce wrote:<br />
Hi,  I am new here. I am thinking to lease out my property, to be managed by real estate agent. But I do not wish to declare it as my investment property. The income received does not go to me, it goes to my brother who is not working. Therefore, I am not receiving any income to be taxed upon. Is this legal?</p>
<p>No tax l expert myself&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-46862"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4401239-is-this-legal-5/#post-4632081" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic australia is has an oversupply of properties and not an undersupply. in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:26:33 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:<br />
And lose 50 odd K in fees and stuff for the transaction in 10 years time?</p>
<p>A lot of fees for today&#039;s median priced home. I only pay around 2% in agent fees which would put your place in the $2.5M range.  That&#039;s some capital gain you expect over the next 10 years unmester, and you said you weren&#039;t bullish&#8230;.. <img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/laugh4.gif?x75824" alt="" />  </p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:46:24 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:<br />
I took some of your advice, though. I decided not to buy in ACT. Will build my FHSA all the way up to 80 odd k (combined with Mrs ummester) and buy at a place we want to retire to when my LSL is due. Then, after living there for 6mths, I will put it up as a rental and use the tax savings to pay down the loan 10 years faster. Best&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-55621"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4401154-australia-is-has-an-oversupply-of-properties-and-not-an-undersupply/page/2/#post-4631664" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic australia is has an oversupply of properties and not an undersupply. in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:22:32 +0000</pubDate>

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<p>Quote:<br />
<a href="http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7946270/finding-space-for-556-000-perth-residents/Finding" rel="nofollow">http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7946270/finding-space-for-556-000-perth-residents/Finding</a> space for 556,000 Perth residents<span class="association printer-source">MARISSA LAGUE, The West Australian</span> <span class="stamp printer-date">September 15, 2010, 6:55 am</span> <!-- -->If forecasts are right, Perth will be home to 556,000 more people in the next 20 years and finding space for an extra 328,000 homes&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-55620"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4401154-australia-is-has-an-oversupply-of-properties-and-not-an-undersupply/page/2/#post-4631663" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:17:12 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eloi wrote:<br />
hey  why there is new unsold properties in sydney, perth, brisbane, gold coast. if its like you  say that we have an undersupply of property by %1 then why do we have these unsold brand new apartments and houses.</p>
<p>what does unsold properties have to do with under or over supply  ?  Is there an oversupply of Toyota cars if there are&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-55617"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4401154-australia-is-has-an-oversupply-of-properties-and-not-an-undersupply/page/2/#post-4631660" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:11:33 +0000</pubDate>

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You can still crack me up harb.</p>
<p>You too unmester, I gather you have not purchased your dream home yet and are still waiting for that  major market correction ? </p>
<p>ummester wrote:<br />
For the argument I&#039;m representing here, I mean recent as in the last 10-15 years and not the latest Epoch:)</p>
<p>Ok. I will agree with you that recent history has&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-55616"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4401154-australia-is-has-an-oversupply-of-properties-and-not-an-undersupply/page/2/#post-4631659" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 02:51:09 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cuteyoungchic wrote:<br />
I live in a city South of Perth. House prices have been falling here for approximately 2 1/2  years. There are loads of houses are on the market, to sell your house, you need to drop the price by tens of thousands.. Rents on existing properties haven&#039;t risen in a year or two. The main local paper has an abundance of houses&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-55614"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4401154-australia-is-has-an-oversupply-of-properties-and-not-an-undersupply/page/2/#post-4631657" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:22:39 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mick12345 wrote:<br />
Hi Harb,I have seen that graph before, it looks like Niall Fergusson&#039;s work.That fact that the House price Index goes up exponentially is very misleading and kills all credibility.</p>
<p>It may well be, I  goggled for Aus property prices and pasted the first chart I came across. You could hardly expect to see monthly fluctuations in&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-55608"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4401154-australia-is-has-an-oversupply-of-properties-and-not-an-undersupply/page/2/#post-4631651" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:16:36 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:<br />
Recent history has shown that property is the winner, not all history. And that is a recent history with sever market distortions.</p>
<p>Depends what you consider recent. Australia being a young country only allows us to look back a couple of hundred years but boy how I wish my great great great grandparents bought me a few acres of&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-55607"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4401154-australia-is-has-an-oversupply-of-properties-and-not-an-undersupply/page/2/#post-4631650" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic australia is has an oversupply of properties and not an undersupply. in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:08:15 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eloi wrote:<br />
Here is an interesting article i just read which coincides with what ive been saying for a few years. </p>
<p>But you&#039;ve only joined here a few weeks ago, can you give us the previous user name you used here so we see what you have been saying for the last few years ? Ta.As far as the over or under supply goes there is a simple indicator&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-55605"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4401154-australia-is-has-an-oversupply-of-properties-and-not-an-undersupply/page/2/#post-4631648" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Interest Rates Will Fall in the forum ummester wrote:As in 'we</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:29:39 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:<br />
As in &#039;we would love to pass on the cuts&#039; suckers&#8230; but we won&#039;t.Anyway, this whole debating tiny changes one way or another is fruitless and becoming boring. I believe that over the next 2 years the price of property will drop by around 30% across the board. You don&#039;t. Only way we are going to be sure who is wrong and who is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-220068"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4393910-interest-rates-will-fall/page/5/#post-4591315" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic ZEGO BUILDING BLOCKS in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:18:46 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a look at it years ago but was put off by possible polystyrene shrinkage due to aging and heat causing the render to fall off.There were a few similar products around but in the end for me it worked out cheaper to go with the tried and tested regular bricks.</p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:57:18 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:<br />
The world should be fine. I have deciphered the real meaning of the 2012 mystery &#8211; it&#039;s about the Australian property market:P</p>
<p>Better rush and get some then, before they are all gone. <img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/laugh.gif?x75824" alt="" />Or did you mean that 2012 is the year you finally give up the wait for lower prices and buy ?  </p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum wealth4life.com wrote:
Wait</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:22:15 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wealth4life.com wrote:<br />
Wait till the end of August when we see the effects of the mortgage resets to comment further here.</p>
<p>You&#039;re still hoping the mortgage resets will cause a property crash ? That&#039;s so 2007.   <img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/laugh4.gif?x75824" alt="" /></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:17:28 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sonyasal wrote:<br />
NFBP.You neglect to realise that most peopl do not pay $500k for a $500k property. They only pay a ten or twenty % deposit. So your figures of losing $107K on a $500k property is inherently flawed. </p>
<p>As is the assumption that rents will stay flat for the next 5-10 years. That 5% yield will soon turn into a 10% +ve geared property&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-268320"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/2/#post-4626569" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property &#38; The ETS in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:02:42 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveMcKnight wrote:<br />
It&#039;s hard to see how the cost of construction won&#039;t increase, </p>
<p>100% agree with you there. Electricity and gas prices are going up and with them the cost of cement,  bricks, steel, kiln dried timber and other building materials where  energy cost is a large component of the manufacturing cost  . Would not be surprised to s&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-272308"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4397930-property-the-ets/#post-4612000" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Property bust not here yet ... worse to come in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:13:56 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple wrote:<br />
BUMP OLD thread, let&#039;s keep it afloat to see it expectations eventuate. To date we seen no price drop in mid/low range.However the top end sunk a minimum 30% (1m+ properties), that is in Wynnum / Manly / Lota in Brisbane </p>
<p>Even if it does eventuate it may only do so after the prices have gone up a lot.  Someone who has been w&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-248847"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4385726-property-bust-not-here-yet-worse-to-come/page/31/#post-4549027" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Perth Market in the forum Help Needed!</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:04:51 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>propertunity wrote:<br />
My hot tip:Mandurah &#8211; sea side location (water always good for CG)Perth-Mandurah Rail Link. $1.7b, completed</p>
<p>+1Also Kwinana Freeway extension is almost completed.</p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic family need help in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:03:25 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spudway wrote:<br />
hi yes we have ..again we cant get a loan as we have 5 kids ..if we only had 3 we wouldnt have a problem ..we could of got a loan for up to 210k ,,</p>
<p>That&#039;s strange, I was under the impression they were there to give loans to people in your situation. They need more people in the area you want to move so the fact that you  have&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-262370"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4396344-family-need-help/page/2/#post-4604543" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic family need help in the forum spudway wrote:
...also we</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:11 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spudway wrote:<br />
&#8230;also we are trying to get of the system that is why we are trying to buy the property ..</p>
<p>&nbsp;So you got in touch with keystart  yet ?   </p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic family need help in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:31:37 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spudway wrote:<br />
we need help we are a family mom dad and 5 kids we have 50k deposit and have put a deposit on a property ,,sale price of 110k &#8230;we are on a pension and get 1915.96 per f/night ..we need 60k &#8230;.we dont qualify for bank finance ..</p>
<p>try    <a href="http://www.keystart.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.keystart.com.au</a></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Home Insulation Products in the forum Value Adding</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:23:31 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casper_1000 wrote:<br />
I&#039;m looking at getting home insulation with the current $1600 government rebate.  There are a few products available with certain companies installing their own products.  The products I&#039;ve found thus far are:  Pink Batts ThermoSealed BATTS &#8211; <a href="http://www.thermosealedbatts.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.thermosealedbatts.com.au</a> Autex Greenstuff Blow-In Insulation  Does anyone&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-197616"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4396227-home-insulation-products/#post-4603985" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Fin Review Sydney 17/05 $1 homes fall from grace - and Perth leads the way in the forum gmh454 wrote:Sunday Fin</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:30:45 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmh454 wrote:<br />
Sunday Fin review listed by % the top falls out of the mill dollar club by suburbs, and Perth lead off with the top 4.South freemantle   24.76%</p>
<p>Median prices are not telling the real story, if anything property prices in South Fremantle actually went up last year.  Median prices got screwed up when the South Beach estate opened up&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-275666"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4396250-fin-review-sydney-1705-1-homes-fall-from-grace-and-perth-leads-the-way/#post-4604083" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic 'Home prices plunge' in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 10:56:10 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott No Mates wrote:<br />
I noticed today&#039;s email from RP Data shows the price drop in median house prices over $1m with several suburbs dropping out of the category but some new one coming in.I don&#039;t believe the stats when they can give a median price increase of 30-50% based on a small number of sales (I like large samples with more information&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-264278"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4396151-home-prices-plunge-2/page/3/#post-4603557" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic 'Home prices plunge' in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 10:11:13 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:<br />
Harb,The amount saved is extremely rlevant to someone who wants to keep their current standard of living. Quite simply, if I borrow more than 250k from the bank and interest rates are back at the long term average of 8%, my standard of living will be less than it currently is renting. I will enter the market when I can do so&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-264277"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4396151-home-prices-plunge-2/page/3/#post-4603556" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic Solicitor in Perth??? in the forum Help Needed!</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:49:59 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>happyjack72 wrote:<br />
                    Hi guys,  I was wondering if any of you great people could recommend a solicitor in Perth? Someone who <em>understands </em>investing (property, share trading) and business, as well as able to give excellent accounting service. And someone who is available at short notice for advice, meetings, etc.(Oh, and doesn&#039;t&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-198041"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4396202-solicitor-in-perth/#post-4603810" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic 'Home prices plunge' in the forum General Property</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:33:24 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:<br />
I know of one GHPCer (FHB) who purchased. FHB had almost 400k saved and brought into the middle of the market &#8211; which had experienced some significant falls. Another GHPCer (HG) is considerring building on land be donated by parents subdivision. These cases represent good value for money and no change in the standard of living&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-264275"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4396151-home-prices-plunge-2/page/3/#post-4603552" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>harb replied to the topic 'Home prices plunge' in the forum ummester wrote:harb wrote:If</title>
				<link>https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4396151-home-prices-plunge-2/page/3/#post-4603550</link>
				<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:09:56 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummester wrote:</p>
<p>harb wrote:<br />
If you took the time to look into it properly instead of just dismise it off hand you&#039;d find that its a positive step towards bringing affordable houses to FHBs.</p>
<p>Not as big a step as a crash<img src="/wp-content/uploads/smileys/devilish.gif?x75824" alt="" width="15" height="15" /></p>
<p>That is a despicable thing to say. You ride around on your high horses preaching idealistic claptrap when in reality you&#039;re&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-106458"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4396151-home-prices-plunge-2/page/3/#post-4603550" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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