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  • Profile photo of ToWhomItMayInterestToWhomItMayInterest
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    @towhomitmayinterest
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    Hi All

    Recently ANZ refused my IP refinance application, declined due to defaults on my credit file.

    Some people say that I'm not able to obtain finance now, due to the fact that ANZ's refusal will be on my credit file. Then other people argue that 80%LVR is obtainable only LMI is now unavailable…I still have heaps to learn so I'm not sure what my options are.

    How do finance providers assess a potential client's credit file?

    Are there many possibilities to have a declined decision changed?

    If the declined decision remains how do I convince the next bank to provide finance?

    Best regards ToWhomItMayInterest

    Profile photo of RaymondBDMRaymondBDM
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    The next bank will only see that you've applied for finance through ANZ, not the declinal. They will make their own decision.

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    Hi what have you/can you do to address the defaults?

    Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    http://www.mycreditfile.com.au get a copy of your file to see what you are up against. Many banks will still consider the small defaults and teleco type stuff. But if you have anything listed as unpaid they generally won't. It may also be possible to remove certain listings such as defaults.

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    Profile photo of ToWhomItMayInterestToWhomItMayInterest
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    The defaults on my credit file where all paid in full about a year ago.

    3 defaults

    1. Bank credit card for about $1500
    2.Telecommunications for just over $1000
    3. One of those furniture store finance programs "Buy Now Pay Nothing For 12mths" for about $4000 – "come in sucker program".

    The problem with my recent ANZ application was when it was submitted no explanations were given for the defaults. – main reason for the declined decision I suppose.

    But…..

    Since these defaults I was granted finance again for another IP from CBA…..which I find partially confusing???

    How do I have defaults removed?

    Any more thoughts and suggestion?…..please do.

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    Hi ToWhomItMayInterest, are your defaults paid? Unpaid? Currently being repaid etc? While there is no such thing as a good default, a default which has been paid is seen as significantly better than an unpaid default. Another factor that comes into play is the recency of the blemishes, for example, if all defaults were paid in full 3+ (or another arbitrary timeframe) years ago some lenders will ignore smaller defaults on the basis that you have effectively 'done your time' and you are now a worthwhile risk. While yours aren't small defaults, they aren't enormous by any stretch of the imagination.

    Unpaid defaults will hurt though, it won't necessarily exclude you from obtaining finance but the interest rates will be sky high and the LVR's low. You mention CBA granted finance some time ago so i'll take a wild stab at the dark and assume they are paid? I certainly can't imagine CBA overlooking 3 unpaid defaults, regadless of size. If they are unpaid, could it be that they were listed as unpaid after you obtained the finance?

    As for removing defaults, the bad news is you can't unless you can demonstrate that there was an error in listing. Defaults are removed from your credit history 5 years (in most cases) from the date they were listed.

    If the defaults are paid, you will probably find these will not preclude you from some mainstream lenders (accompanied by a satisfactory explaination) but if they are unpaid you are going to either go to a non conforming lender and pay through the nose, pay the defaults and wait a little before your next application so you can demonstrate change financial behaviour, or wait 5 years from when they were listed and wait for them to drop off the bottom of your credit report.

    Best of luck

    Jamie

    Profile photo of ToWhomItMayInterestToWhomItMayInterest
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    What type of default explanations are best used when applying for property finance?

    What works…what doesn't?

    Profile photo of RaymondBDMRaymondBDM
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    be honest…if you forgot to pay a telco bill or credit card then state that. telling a sob story won't get you that far…lenders will have heard it all….

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    While reading this I just received a sms from a Sydney based lender who can lend 90% LVR for first  home owners with paid defaults and judgments with rates from 6.17%.

    So there are still lenders out there who can do these sorts of loan with slightly higher rates.

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    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Terry agreed we must have got the same email.

    Problem is that they wont lend to expats be there tried lol.

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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    ANZ have been extremely tight with lending of late; i just moved 1mil+ from them as they would not budge on a PI to IO loan (you have to do a complete refinance to switch, they claim its credit critical, whatever..) in IMHO they have lost the plot a bit of late, I suspect the Opes Prime debacle has caused a few knuckles to get rapped.

    Try Westpac, a good broker should be to get you 4.97 fixed for 2 years or 4.99 fixed for 3.

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Pwinne

    Hate to disgaree with you my friend but Westpac are just as tight on underwriting if not even tighter.

    Certainly wont consider 3 paid defaults especially where 1 is in favour of finance by way of a credit card.

    Also Westpac wont do more than 80% LVR for an expat where as Anz will still go to 90%.

    Each lender and mortgage insurer has its own policy in regards to defaults however given the number and amount it is unlikely either of the main mortgage insurers will touch it.

    For Raymonds benefit RAMS have already decline the deal on running it past their credit department.

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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    No worries Richard,

    I'm not a broker, so my view is only that of the consumer ;) I have no issue with being corrected.

    My recent experience i.e. this week was that ANZ was ballbusting and WESTPAC welcomed me with open arms. Mind you I have been with ANZ for 10 years and this is 3 loans of 1 mil in total. ANZ would not let my existing loans go IO and I was having to stay P&I.

    ANZ rates are far from competitive IMHO.

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Admitedly Anz credit policies have tightened (Even yesterday they amended servcieability criteria again) but this is the case with most of the majors.

    Must admit i think you must have just been dealing with the wrong person at Anz as I am sure if credit or the local State Manager new they were going to loose the deal they would have allowed the loan to roll over again to IO. 

    Certainly agree with you about interest rates with the ANZ.

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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    Hi Richard,

    You may well be right. However 3 years at 4.99 is far better than the rate ANZ was offering. So the move is not a sad one; and in this climate the more $ in your hand the better, especially if more good property deals surface post June.

    I'd liked dealing with ANZ, but I guess my time with them has ended for the moment. They knocked me back in August last year on a development block with heaps of upside, and went through ING with no issues. My file is clean and I personally believe I'm a good lend; however ANZ doesnt seem to think so :)

    Cheers

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