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  • Profile photo of JodieDJodieD
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    Hi,
    This is our first post.  We've been reading, with great interest, all of your posts for months now, have read a few books and are starting to make some plans to invest…  Yes, we're very much in the early stages :)
    My husband has just posed a question to me, which got me thinking and which I thought you may all have some comments and/or advice on…  "If we were really serious about investing, why don't we sell our home and use the net proceeds to get started?"
    I understand that we don't need to sell in order to access equity – but, on our current incomes, we wouldn't be comfortable increasing our debt levels.  And, we could rent a similar home for much less than we're paying towards our mortgage!  Selling our home would give us $200-$250k cash to invest.
    I guess it's an emotional issue, as well as a financial one – which, I can't expect you all to comment on.  But, from a financial viewpoint only – is this a reasonable thing to consider?
    Thanks, JD.

    Profile photo of PudestconPudestcon
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    JodieD,
    My thoughts are to avoid selling at all costs unless the property is a real dog.  After all the purpose is, I would have thought, to develop a portfolio of property which you can't do if you sell.  To develop a portfolio usually means taking on more debt so you need to get your head around that concept first.  Enlist the help of a good broker from this forum to guide you through the process and give you suggestions to manage the holding costs.
    All the best,
    Pud

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    Hello Jodie

    Why not consider renting out your home and making this your first IP. You can do this for up to 6 years without losing its CGT free status which is a big plus.

    You then get to deduct all expenses (rates, water service, insurance etc. and most importantly the interest on the loan) from your tax which should leave you better off. Also, if it's a fairly new house you should have some good depreciation which is great as this is a non out of pocket expense.

    Selling this house to buy something else costs money (selling costs and then buying costs and stamp duty) so unless your house is in a poor growth area it makes better sense to me to keep it. Mind you I don't know the value of the house or the size of your loan.

    Could you sell the house and buy 2 good IPs without increasing your current debt level?

    Just another thing to consider.

    Elka

    Profile photo of JodieDJodieD
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    Thanks Pud & Elka for your replies,
    I hadn't considered renting our home…  It possibly wouldn't allow us to increase our debt levels immediately to start investing -however,  we would have created our first IP :)  It is possible that we could rent somewhere similar for about $1000 less per month – but, we'd need this $1000 to contribute towards the mortgage as our IP would be negatively geared…  My head's not quite getting around the numbers, so I'll go away and work on some likely figures and see if it could work or not…  Thanks for the suggestion – definitely worth considering!  By the way, our PPOR is brand new – we finished building and moved in Mar 07.  We already have our home loan set up as IO, with an offset – from what I've read, this is the right structure for an IP…
    Regarding the other thought that Elka enquired about: Yes, we could sell our PPOR and possibly afford two +CF IPs in a rural area.
    Cheers, JD.

    Profile photo of OzboyOzboy
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    Generally speaking, I don't see the point of selling a property in Australian suburbia as there is plenty of years of 'heat' left in the market, if you have a global view of relative property values. You simply use the available equity in your home to buy more property. Buy more property when the properties you own have gone up in vaue & you use the new level of available equity to buy more.
    Selling involves costs.

    The only situations I can see for selling property is for:
    1) cash flow
    2) you can see somewhere else where you are fairly sure you can get a greater return in a shorter period of time, AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION SELLING COSTS OF EXISTING PROPERTY & THEN BUYING COSTS OF THE NEW PROPERTY. Its basically a form of opportunity cost

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