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Prenups, of binding financial agreements can be set aside in some circumstances such as if there is a major change in the situation of the couple. e.g. new children and this wasn't covered in the agreement. etc.
It may also be possible that it wasn't done properly such as not signed off by a lawyer etc.
If that is set aside then she may be able to have the trust assets taken into account as either or both:
assets of the marriage, and/or
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There might be a will in place, what do you know what it says? Wills can be revocked by marriage or by doing a new one and he can make a claim no matter what is in the will. It would go to court if he challenged it but you can always negotiate out of court. But lawyers would be involved and it could be costly. I was one a similar case a while back and the fees were up to $150k. The risk of him challenging the will can be reduced by talking to him about it beforehand – I mean your mum. And by leaving him something. Some people get a big shock when they find they have nothing in a will. He may also predecease your mum.
By transferring the house to your brother it is adding to the risk in one way. You will have to contend with him getting sued – bankruptcy and family law and if he dies. But you also have the issues with your mum – if she goes bankrupt you have the claw back provisions and then the family law and claims on the will.
I think it is more like 24 months for a property settlement with family law matters. ie defacto cannot claim within 24 months. But this can be varied by the court – i think, going from memory.
stamp duty would be payable.
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You should also make sure she has a good will in place.
The defacto will have a claim on the place in the future whether he is in the will or not. But still good to have one.
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Best to talk to a solicitor such as myself.
Transferring assets quickly may give some protection. Especially within the first 2 years. But the family court has wide powers over third parties and your mum would be transferring property with the intent to defeat a claim on it. So if he were later to challenge the transfer it would be weak and he may have a claim. The family act enables orders to be made on third parties such as yourself.
But, even if he did challenge it the court will look at a number of things such as property of the marriage, contributions to the property and then the needs of both parties.
Trasnferring will help your mum a bit, but what if you enter a relationship? Or get sued?
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Just get a spreadsheet for the proeprty.
Work out the income for the property. ie the lossThis loss is then added to other income. So you can work out, from the ATO calculator, what the tax payable on the income is before the loss. Then add the loss and work out again.
This will enable to you work out how much the tax you saved because of the propeerty.
ps I am not an accountant either.
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yes there is.
1
Profit = Income – expenses
If this is negative then you are negative cashflow before tax and you would be negatively geared.2
Profit = Income – expenses – non cash expenses.
(non cash = things you don't pay for directly, but can claim such as depreciation and loan costs)
If this figure is negative then you are negatively geared.You could still be cashflow positive with negatively geared because of the non cash deductions
3
Profit = Income – expenses – noncash expenses + tax saved (related to this property only)
This will tell you how much it actually makes or loses after everything.—
You cannot just add your tax return to the figures because some of that return is because you were having too much tax taken out of wages each week and you would also have other non property related expenses that you can claim related to your job.
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I just got an email from Bankwest, they have dropped fixed rates
2 year special 5.99% paTerryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Don't forget NAB is still one of the lowest rates and they dropped their rates more than the other banks last time.
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You will need to know the income and then deduct all the expenses. This will give you the profit or loss. This is added to your other taxable income.
If amount back will also depend on how much you had paid in tax as well. You may be paying slightly more in each pay period so at the end of the year the return looks bigger than it otherwise would be.
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I haven't done the calcs and wasn't even referring about rate etc. Just that this is an option.
Also if considering fixing have you considered the RBA could drop rates again within a year?
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Nope, doesn't make sense!
Will need to know the income and costs of your property and ROI is return on investment so will need to know how much money you put into it.
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What about staying as is and just paying extra off each week via direct salary deposit?
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or, you can get me at this one. Terry@loan-experts.com.au
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I have some exams for a masters degree over the next week, but can catch up after that. Can you send me a PM or email via the forum. I don't want to put my email on here in public.
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City – sydney CBD
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I am a lawyer and do a bit of property – but prefer structures and estate planning (pre and post death)
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Dont forget land tax can be minimised by buying in different states. And buying after 31 Dec – off the top of my head I think it is settlement that counts.
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I agree. The Fin advisor will probably tell you to sell your house and put it into managed funds (commissions stay till June next year I think).
That sort of advice should take 10 min and could be answered on the spot.
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There are some other differences in terms of costs.
More for legal advice and taxation advice and tax returns. Prob not much more if you are just buying a few properties.
The major added cost is the fact that any loss incurred by the trust cannot be used to offset your personal income.
I think a discretionary trust makes sense, especially if postive geared. Without a trust you have no flexibility. It can save you tens of thousands.
eg. a few years ago my mate purchased in WA. I told him to look at using a discretionary trust because he was the highest income earner and his wife stay at home with no income. He wanted to negatively gear to bought in his name.
A year later the property doubled in value so he sold it. Since it was in his name he had a $200,000 capital gain which increased his income by about $100,000. But his wife still had no income. If only he had used a trust.Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Tim,
You are right. Everyone should get tax advice from a lawyer and/or accountant.
But have a look at ATO ID 2001/79
http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=AID/AID200179/00001Issue
Whether interest on funds borrowed to acquire the share of the taxpayer's spouse (the spouse) in a property, to be kept for investment purposes is deductible.
Decision
The interest is deductible under section 8-1 to the extent that the borrowed funds are used for the purposes of producing assessable income.
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But the ATO could still apply Part IVA
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