PropertyInvesting.com | AussieHousePrices | Activity https://www.propertyinvesting.com/members/aussiehouseprices/activity/ Activity feed for AussieHousePrices. Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:06:51 +0000 https://buddypress.org/?v=2.8.1 en-US 30 hourly 2 9c27289ebdec1c0a840b130734aa15f0 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/11/#post-4626753 Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:01:41 +0000 What more were you looking for god_of_money?

]]> b79ae558ef2afb5e03e0b9417c7f4fa6 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic Useful Buffett Insight in the forum toe wrote:Between late 2002 https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4402822-useful-buffett-insight/page/4/#post-4642225 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:20:25 +0000

toe wrote:
Between late 2002 and 2005 the market plateau'd. So I dont see how you say that's impossible.

I’m still not convinced.  You’re looking at the weighted average for 8 capital cities.  Is it possible that the plateau you’re seeing is really just an average of rising markets (such as Perth) and falling ones (such as Sydney)…[Read more]

]]> 1bd812a33f5208b8eace59c2dddfefbd AussieHousePrices replied to the topic Useful Buffett Insight in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4402822-useful-buffett-insight/page/4/#post-4642224 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:18:52 +0000 Hi Pharvie – you raised some good points – and I agree that price can trade within a tight range. Would you agree however, that it’s usually due to one of two reasons – either a) there’s not much interest or trading happening so not much price movement, or b) there’s a lot of interest but it’s a battle between bulls and bears.  We can definitely r…[Read more]

]]> 42939e3274ca4abab7ae8287a8b2e4f2 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic Useful Buffett Insight in the forum Hi Guys,   I’m not so https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4402822-useful-buffett-insight/page/4/#post-4642220 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:44:00 +0000 Hi Guys,  I’m not so sure there needs to be an “event” in order to pop our housing bubble. With the American housing bubble, or the ‘87 stock market crash for example, nothing specific happened that caused them to burst.  A bubble relies on a constant supply of new entrants to keep it going.  One day, you eventually run out of people willing to p…[Read more]

]]> d454019f29f0611ce3649505fb81f861 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic Useful Buffett Insight in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4402822-useful-buffett-insight/page/3/#post-4642190 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:11:54 +0000 Great topic Steve and to answer your question – of course Buffets comments can be applied to Australia. The only difference being that our bubble was about twice as big as theirs, so our inevitable crash will likely be twice as severe – see the second graph on this page: http://www.whocrashedtheeconomy.com/blog/?m=200903

]]> 41504057c3ac84fc6484000d59bab3c6 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum fWord - I think we've gone https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/11/#post-4626749 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:13:57 +0000 fWord – I think we've gone as far as we can with this debate.  Was fun – cheers.

]]> 077844476beb8b091fd809fce6ee0806 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/11/#post-4626748 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:10:03 +0000 god_of_money – I've got no idea what you're talking about or why you're asking me to define the GFC.Here's a link – look it up yourself.  Looks like it started in 2007, but I'm not an expert.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932010

]]> 65fa4b2434dfce5a0c38780ad8e06fa4 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/11/#post-4626744 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:50:08 +0000 god_of_money – I thought the GFC started around mid 2007 (the peak of the sharemarket). Do you have a link to prove otherwise?  And what is your point?

]]> 39973e298a6e3bd7902ac2f8649ee8a2 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/10/#post-4626742 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 05:59:19 +0000

fWord wrote:
In a similar fashion, when either the property bubble bursts or property goes out of fashion, prices of all houses are reduced when they change hands. But when things pick up again, the houses in the most desirable locations will have the greatest potential to increase in price (as the graph in that PDF file you told me to read,…[Read more]

]]> a3e2ebfe016dc8a9a2cd11d7469f3f6e AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/10/#post-4626739 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 04:58:58 +0000

fWord wrote:
The way I see it, there's a lot of seriously loaded people out there. If these people are always buying into the hip and trendy suburbs, prices are going to get higher as each of them tries to outbid other parties for a chance to live in these areas.

You keep saying that you’re not implying that good areas won’t fall.  So what is t…[Read more]

]]> 5818a82dd8bf848adf4df92c44c7ff37 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/10/#post-4626736 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 04:40:47 +0000 god_of_money – charts of the All Ords and Dow Jones are readily available on the internet.  Check them out.

]]> bdeb9e624ddb5a05a175260b69b1f7ac AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/10/#post-4626732 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 02:54:17 +0000 Well said Melbournite.

]]> 606b8d52eefd030a19159cd5ca8d8126 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/10/#post-4626730 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 02:07:28 +0000 god_of_money wrote:
The facts AREAll Ords went back to pre GFC level in 18 months DOW went back to pre GFC level in less than 18 months

No they didn't.  In fact, they still haven't recovered to pre GFC levels.

]]> 04ca140a4a03ddbb07fe740d166a125b AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/10/#post-4626727 Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:56:49 +0000

fWord wrote:
Then why bring up the point earlier that property values are crashing (or have crashed) in other countries to say there is no truth in the claim that property values will trend upwards? If we have not studied the fundamentals in these countries, we cannot draw any conclusions about the reason for their property market crash, nor…[Read more]

]]> 1c214abb5889ffca1a6f4a16197d536d AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/9/#post-4626718 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:18:35 +0000

fWord wrote:
Sorry, you've got me confused here. Which statement are we referring to that leads you to bring up this point?

I was referring to when you said “Hmm…your statement seems to imply that people who put money into property do not focus on potential cash flows” but I may have misunderstood. 

fWord wrote:
Not entirely true. With depr…[Read more]

]]> 53cee108e0cc20d9b4cc6f3721c02a1b AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum Are you serious?  Is that https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/9/#post-4626710 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:23:52 +0000 Are you serious?  Is that actually what it recently sold for or what the owner is asking?  That would be a 2% yield – before costs!

]]> 51d64a0f4ed453e8c57ec99bed47c7f1 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/9/#post-4626708 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:35:12 +0000 fWord – you were the one that said the majority of investors are in the business of capital gain.  And in recent times, I would agree.I also agree with you about tax.  Although, I think many property investors don’t realize that a tax deduction just reduces the loss (as opposed to eliminate it, or turn it into a profit).Underlying profi…[Read more]

]]> 6326a0bb94c58cff418e40026e6b9cb1 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum Hi Wynyard.  My guess https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/9/#post-4626707 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 00:34:18 +0000 Hi Wynyard.  My guess $460,000 now.   About half that in 7 years.

]]> 5a65c7d3b79a010d8f2e5963c3831b03 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum fWord wrote:Where then is https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/8/#post-4626702 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:12:17 +0000

fWord wrote:
Where then is this fine line between investing and speculating?

Investors focus on the potential cash flows of the investment (e.g. rent / profitability / dividends).  Of course, they might also hope that the value of their investment will go up as the potential future cash flow improves.   Speculators aren’t as interested in the…[Read more]

]]> e1db216b0b291aa6cda22d729ade70a4 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/8/#post-4626699 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:49:08 +0000

fWord wrote:
Then it is the market dictating the cost of renting, is it not? And why should an investor charge rent that is under market value?

That’s right. I’ve never suggested that investors should under charge. 

fWord wrote:
The vast majority of the investors on this forum are actually losing money on their investments every year. Howe…[Read more]

]]> 7ae489cdf43c3e5fc3f585c29faf9461 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum One other thing fWord, we https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/8/#post-4626696 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:22:49 +0000 One other thing fWord, we get bombarded with claims that prices always go up, and advice that if we don’t buy now, we’ll be priced out forever – from the media, from the property industry, the banks and even from friends and family.

You might not have declared your beliefs but everyone else has! So I think it’s unfair to ask us doomsayers to co…[Read more]

]]> a5af70a0ccf858ed6b93ba709b95544e AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/8/#post-4626695 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:59:47 +0000 I agree that landlords are not out to sqeenze tentants dry. But I also wouldn’t call them ‘generous’ for providing a roof over people’s heads. Investor’s are (rightly) in it for themselves and they simply get the best rent they can, as the market dictates.

One thing I don’t understand is that you seem to approve of the concept of delayed gra…[Read more]

]]> b2547903653fadf8670ea5d6ef06d29c AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum fWord, you said: “What's https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/8/#post-4626693 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 03:50:49 +0000 fWord, you said: “What’s so ridiculous about that?”

It is possible to have a view of where the market will be in the future while understanding that the market isn’t there yet. Think of it this way, if you think your investment property will double in 10 years, would you try to sell it for double NOW?

You said: “Well, I’m no expert. However…[Read more]

]]> 9471258f0ad726edd40aa4d33a55e79f AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/8/#post-4626691 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:04:08 +0000 fWord – that’s a ridiculous idea – to put in an offer 40% below current market value, because of the expectation that prices will be 40% cheaper some time down the track. Although if I wanted to buy, I would definitely be putting in offers around 5% less than 6 months ago.

You could possibly argue that property bears could put their money where…[Read more]

]]> ac84c79838ecf7acfa340d0f7fc603ad AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/8/#post-4626688 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:49:54 +0000 Why so angry DWolfe?  You’re surprised I haven’t done much to pop the Aussie housing bubble?  You must think I’m more powerful than I am. I’m not looking for hand-outs or a free house – no idea where you got that idea from.  I don’t ask for anything from the government.  In fact, I’d be happier if they stopped the hand-outs, butted out of the h…[Read more]

]]> 4973a1e307ce0cdcc81b909cbd6cd0a0 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/8/#post-4626686 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:20:22 +0000 Wynyard, to be honest, not much. I’ve fired off a few emails to the housing minister and set up http://aussiehouseprices.blogspot.com/ to get my thoughts down, but that’s about it. However, I’ve noticed much more influential people, such as Steve Keen, getting ignored.

But you’re right – that’s no reason to give up. Count me in for any protest…[Read more]

]]> 938afc5fe4c3f3fdcaa52bd7a12c6c32 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum Good post Wynyard and I https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/8/#post-4626684 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:51:52 +0000 Good post Wynyard and I appreciate the sentiment. But I don’t see the point in trying anymore – the government is not interested in making houses more affordable because it would upset too many voters and cause some short-term damage to the economy.

That report you linked to highlights the fact that the First Home Owners Grant only increases h…[Read more]

]]> 4066c4bdc505f47d40fde21b24efc222 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/7/#post-4626681 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:45:26 +0000 DWolfe wrote:
I read Andy's blog and it was well put together with excellent points. Pity it was a rehash of what many, many others had written before. In fact, it really seemed a lot like articles I have already read. Also the comments by all his bear buddies beggared belief, when you're glad you haven't bought property so that you can have a…[Read more]

]]> 268136753fa28629a33a7fc08de6fdb5 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/7/#post-4626680 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:40:29 +0000 Dan42 wrote:

AussieHousePrices wrote:
Hi All, If you’re not yet tired of reading about the Aussie Housing Bubble, check out my new blog: http://aussiehouseprices.blogspot.com/ Cheers. Andy.

Great first post Andy, plugging your own website without adding anything to the conversation. (Please note the sarcasm).Please forgive me if I won't be c…[Read more]

]]> 1ca0e4b7538e19c0a7b8ab988b7a6c52 AussieHousePrices replied to the topic No Housing Bubble in Australia...is there? in the forum General Property https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4400323-no-housing-bubble-in-australia-is-there/page/7/#post-4626676 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 06:15:53 +0000 Hi All,

If you’re not yet tired of reading about the Aussie Housing Bubble, check out my new blog:

http://aussiehouseprices.blogspot.com/

Cheers.
Andy.

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