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  • Profile photo of js1js1
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    Hi,

    We purchased our first home in Australia (we built) last year. Our lender required a large deposit, however would loan us the money with a smaller deposit but we needed to pay lenders mortgage insurance ( a relatively large cost). Is there any way of reducing or negating the mortgage insurance at this stage if I could pay in a lump sum – in effect increase my initial deposit?

    Thanks,
    JS1

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    Not sure what your asking???

    It sounds like you bought the place already with LMI? and now you want a refund?????

    Regards
    Michael

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    The more deposit you put in the less the LMI. Usually no LMI under 80% LVR.

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    Hi JS1,

    Depending on the time frames and lender/mortgage insurer a partial refund is not impossible provided you can dump enough cash in to the loan.
    However these days any LMI refunds are increasingly difficult to apply for.
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    Cheers,

    Rhys.
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    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Hi Rhys

    Really wanna tell us who will refund the LMI where you merely pay down the loan without refinancing.

    I am not aware of any lender who will do this.

    Cheers

    Yours in Finance

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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    Hi Richard,

    It looks like Genworth have removed any ability to get a refund when they updated their policy this month, or sometime between my last investigation and this update.
    http://genworth.com.au/docs/underwriting-policy/lmi-underwriting-policy-australia-jan2012.pdf?Status=Master
    From memory they were offering 40% refunds within 1 year and 20% from 1-2 years (could have been more but either way better than nothing), existing loans may well be eligible for the older refunds with the exception of loans written through CBA whom recieved a discount on premiums for waiving the ability to refund (there may be others, I do not believe this is explicitly related to their DUA).

    QBELMI still have a provision for a partial refund within 12 months but it is dependant on their agreement with the lender.
    http://www.qbelmi.com/Uploads/Documents/07d19505-24fe-42af-97da-d48054b480f1.pdf
    page 33
     "Depending on arrangements between QBE LMI and Lenders, a partial refund may be payable if all loans secured by the Insured Mortgage are repaid in full and the Insured Mortgage is discharged within 12 months of payment of the Premium in respect of the initial loan advance and QBE LMI is advised within 30 days of discharge."
    and
    "Borrowers should be advised to direct any premium refund enquiries to their Lender."

    So as mentioned in my other post it is getting harder to seek a refund for any new loans, especially when QBELMI require you to refi to get it (almost certainly cost prohibitive unless you can get reasonable gains through a more competitive product/structure)

    As you may have gathered I have not successfully obtained a refund as yet however it certainly does not hurt to be aware of the policy provisions and to make further enquiries as required.

    Cheers,

    Rhys.

    Edit: Existing loans will likely be covered by the policy of the day, which is why I deal with these case by case

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Hi Rhys

    Yes both lenders updated their LMI Refund policy in early 2011.

    Cheers

    Yours in Finance

    Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender

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