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  • Profile photo of Istvan051Istvan051
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    My book true family structure (TFS) is about integrating family and business into a single entity. Every person has a primary relationship and each person works under the direction of this person inside the business structure. Next the interdependent marriage is a relationship
    which exists at a third entity separate from husband and wife. The primary relationship of each person is under a binding agreement
    by the government not to release information about you such as your address to any person. So you may be married to someone and live
    together inside something I call the "public sector" you are actually in an interdependent relationship with this person. If you want to have children then you will actually share the care of children with this person inside the public sector. Husband and wife don't even need to actually know were each other privately reside as they actually live together inside the public sector (i.e. they actually live somewhere other than were they sleep). The reason for this is to prevent co-dependency type problems so many people face in their relationships with each other. The role of the primary relationship is to take each relevant spouse through three main stages, co-dependence, independence and finally interdependence at which point the primary relationship actually becomes like the landlord to the spouse as it moves into a property
    owned by the primary relationship. As spouse to your primary relationship you are required to maintain the respect of this person in order
    to maintain your position in the world.

    The advantages of all these types of social structures are numerous. People are untraceable by each other as they actually socialize inside the public sector and not at home in order to maintain privacy. Husband and wife as they are actually interdependent by the definition of TFS and they actually have separate financial entities as they live together inside a third entity called the public sector. 
    People have a lot less conflicts of interest with others as when they do have issues they are unable to act on their feelings as they
    cant find each other. Rather they are encouraged to talk to their primary relationships about it.  Remember each person actually works under the direction of their primary relationship so when they go to work its this person who tells you what to do. In turn this person
    is bound by law not to disclose information about you to other people in order to maintain your privacy. If it did do so and you were harassed by someone you would actually be able to sue your primary relationship.

    If anyone wants to talk to me about this stuff id like to hear all your ideas/opinions to help me with my book.

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    A few points that you may have overlooked, if they are married/in a defacto relationship, then each has claims on the other’s assets, why would they consider living separate lives & continue to work together if they were a couple? How can a couple maintain a relationship & family if they don’t communicate the basics & at all other levels? What’s wrong with picking up a random shag instead of trying to create a cloak of deception?

    Surely the marriage act, corporations law & common sense would prevent such subterfuge & stupidity?

    Try getting into a meaningful relationship & telling your partner that you will continue to work with them but not live with them, have children with them but not share in the parental responsibilities, care or nurture them, not socialise with your partner or have anything to do with their care or financial situation.

    Get a new pair of gloves.

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    Hi Scott,

    I will give you a decent reply in a couple of days

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    Scott

    I got some spare time now so here goes.

    "A few points that you may have overlooked, if they are married/in a defacto relationship, then each has claims on the other's assets, why would they consider living separate lives & continue to work together if they were a couple?"

    The thing to understand with interdependant relationships by the definition of TFS is that people are not actually living separate lives as such. They live together inside a third entity called the public sector.
    This is the part which takes most people a little bit of time to get their heads around but once you think it through it makes sense. As a result husband and wife actually have separate financial entities as such. What interdependance does is that
    it takes the simple truth of each position of the marriage and weaves them together in a third entity called public sector.
    The simple truth is as such that husband and wife will have differing ideas about how money should be spent and or saved.
    The result is the simple need to constantly compromise with one another. By taking the relationship along with each persons
    sense of identity to a third entity as in interdependance, husband and wife have their own territories separate from one another
    and actually have an enhanced sense of choice and freedom. This is not to say they are living separate lives by any means. It simply implies that they actually live inside the third entity for the larger part of their time.
    In TFS hudband and wife actually spend more time together than in the typical modern world were husband and wife actually
    work at separate places and only see each other at night. In TFS husband and wife actually spend all day, every day as well as perhaps night together while living in separate territories. Each business is integrated to include the family inside so husband and wife actually have the option of working side by side (as business partners).

    What interdependance simply does is that it puts people in a situation were they are not sheltered by the other partner by means
    of providing a financial "Doll house" so to speak. By creating separate territories and financial entities for one another and then living in the middle the typical need to compromise is abolished. They now live in the public sector which is a world which is
    actually governed by a third party. i.e. the state so to speak. They have their own territories which contain their own individual
    choices about how they like to do things and prioritize how they would like to spend their own money.  

    Also to answer another part of your question right here, yes they do have private places inside the public sector were they can shag.

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    "How can a couple maintain a relationship & family if they don't communicate the basics & at all other levels? What's wrong with picking up a random shag instead of trying to create a cloak of deception"?

    By integrating the business and the family into a single entity as in TFS, the ability of each person to communicate is actually enhanced. People are not forced to maintain the respect of alternate people outside the family as in the current world. Each person
    actually works under the direction of their own primary relationship inside the business structure. As you grow up the role of the primary relationship is to take you from co-dependence to independence and finally to interdependence as you become an adult by definition of TFS.

    When you integrate the family and the business together what you are doing is actually streamlining communication between all
    parties of the marriage and the key people in your life. This is done by reducing the number of people you need to form relationships with and communicate with on a daily basis. So rather than having a husband/wife and a work manager and perhaps a business partner and other colleges to interact
    with on a daily basis. You have a primary relationship and then if your married your wife will be your secondary relationship and also you will be at this stage interdependent to both of these people. Your primary relationship tells you what to do at work and your wife works alongside to you at work from 9-5 for example. Your wife will also work under the direction of its own primary relationship. So in this context you may be able to see why in interdependency it is actually easier to maintain a relationship!

    The next step is the children which also exist inside the public sector as husband and wife share the care of their own children

    inside the third entity. The primary relationship of the child will form with time and then the role of one of the parents/sibling is to take this role and take the child thorough to interdependence. The child will also work under the direction of its newly formed primary relationship inside the next generation of business structure.

    The second part of your question I really don't fully understand what you mean by picking up a random shag instead of trying to create a cloak of deception.

    I am only guessing what you may mean by picking a random shag may refer to the current world were people have multiple levels of relationships to maintain on a daily basis. People live with their co-dependent, get up in the morning, go to work and do what their managers, work partners tell them to do. They then go home and interact with the wife who perhaps did the same thing somewhere else at another work. Next they have to

    interact with each other with the daily gossip and news in order to keep their own relationship functioning. Next if they have children they have to make choices about how to raise them together whilst simultaneously managing relationships with work

    managers and other business partners. Additionally they will often have parents and other relatives to deal with who will often

    talk behind each others back behind you and form bias opinions about you. This all requires work to manage on each of their behalfs.

    In TFS we integrate the business into the family so there is one main business culprit to manage and we call this the primary relationship. The primary relationship is under a binding agreement by the government not to release information about us such as our address so we go to the world, the world doesn't go to us. In other words, we run our own life!

    Next we have the interdependent marriage which exists at a third entity and is easier to manage then a wife

    who lives with you co-dependently at home. We classify all these people and then integrate them into the business so that

    we all have a common goal which is that of the agenda of our family structure. i.e. Anything from a supermarket to a public service office.

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    "Try getting into a meaningful relationship & telling your partner that you will continue to work with them but not live with them, have children with them but not share in the parental responsibilities, care or nurture them, not socialise with your partner or have anything to do with their care or financial situation".

    To start with at interdepedancy remember couples live together inside the publc sector. In other words, we actually share the care of our children together in a third entity. Next we share parental responsibilities inside the public sector. We socialize everyday day, together, inside the public sector. We nuture our children inside the public sector. We live and build our interdependant relationship inside the public sector.

    The primary relationship of each person holds information about each person but is bound by law not to disclose this information to other people in order to maintain privacy. So if I decided I felt dishonoured about something you (my wife) did or said and decided I didnt want to talk to our children and also stoped talking to you (again, my wife), then the role of the relevant primary relationships is actually to communte and then work towards a resolution for their spouses. This is the job of the primary relationship.

    The primary relationship actually forms naturally inside the public sector. So it may end up being mum, dad, a sibling, granparent ect. Once it is formed the person is actually employed to perform this role for the spouse. To take the spouse from co-dependancy to interdependancy which in TFS, is the definition of adulthood. Once the child reaches interdependancy they are able to take on the role of being a primary relationship to someone else themselves.

    Remember in TFS the primary relationship is the one person you can tell absolutely anything to. The one person you have no secrets from. From birth to death the primary relationship is the foundation of your entire social structure and is actually recognised in the eyes of the law as the one person in your life of greatest importance (More important than even your married partner).

    In TFS, I recognise this person to be just that and people would actually go through offical processes just like that of marriage in our current culture in order to gain a primary relationship. In turn, the primary relationship is employed by the government to perform this role for you for. The primary relationship should form naturally, be it a parent, sibling, aunt, uncle or granparent.

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    HI – Havent posted for a while, but after reading this I'm not sure whether I am up too late, have lost my touch, or had one to many glasses of 'Tenet Cabernet Savignon' to chase done the Heinekin's after a hard day at work – could be a combination of all but too deep for me this time of night!

    Cheers

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    The following is a firm from Brisbane who actually specilizes in doing what im talking about.

    http://www.finh.com/

    Next a short video on family businesses

    http://www.businessfamilies.org/en/virtual-library/celebrating-business-families

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    How to operate your own life according to TFS

    In order for you to operate your own life according to the principles of TFS you first will need to form your own primary relationship. Next your primary relationship will need to open a business and you will work under this person’s direction. The primary relationship should purchase an investment property and employ you at the same time. The investment property should become your residence. Next the primary relationship should deduct your rent/loan repayments from your salary so you are paid the remainder. The primary relationship should sign a contract which means he/she is bound by law not to release certain information about you such as your address to any person. If he/she did do so and you were harassed by any person you would actually be able to sue your primary relationship. Once you move in and go to work you have formed an interdependent relationship with this person. The primary relationship is also your employer and you will obviously be working somewhere inside the public sector away from your place of residence in order to maintain privacy. Your biggest objective in life is to maintain the respect of your primary relationship and do things under its direction in line with the type of organization your family structure is aligned with. Next if you want you may form an interdependent marriage to some person whom also has a primary relationship. This relationship will exist inside your work structures and you will have the option of working side by side to this person in the public sector. At this point your entire social life exists inside a third dimension, the public sector. If you have children then in order to maintain interdependence with your married partner you will need to build facilities inside the public sector which the child/ren will reside in. This is necessary in order to maintain interdependence with your married partner. Without these facilities you will end up going back to co-dependence as you move in together in order to share the care of child/ren. This is where most people in the modern world lose out as when they have children they without even knowing it end up going back to co-dependence, and they start having problems as they find a constant need to compromise with each other. By maintaining interdependence after children you are greatly improving your chances of a long term, vibrant, productive and healthy relationship for years to come.

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