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  • Profile photo of Nathalie74Nathalie74
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    Hello everybody,

    I have a little bit of money coming my way in a few months time and I have decided to invest it in property. I am a complete novice and have no idea where to even start.

    Like a lot of people I am very scared of making the wrong decisions. I have been looking at property for a few months now, but find it really hard to see whether a property is worth investing in.

    Just wondering if anybody would like to be my mentor :) I know it's a long shot, but you never know :) Any help would be much appreciated.

    I live in Townsville.

    Regards

    Nathalie

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    Profile photo of CatalystCatalyst
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    Hi Nathalie. You can post any questions or ideas here for constructive feedback. It is great to find some like minded people to chat with about property. Do they ever have seminars in Townsville? Or somewhere you could travel to. That way you could meet some like minded people. Maybe advertise locally for people interested in property. Read books and magazines to get different ideas of how to invest in property.
    What are you thinking of? Buy and hold? Will you be comfortable buying away from Townsville? Try to get these basics clear then it will be a lot easier to move forward. There are so many ways to make money in property it can get confusing.

    Profile photo of Jamie MooreJamie Moore
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    Hi Nathalie

    Welcome to the forum.

    Places like this are a good start. It's a great free resource.

    As mentioned above, there's a couple of IP related magazines you can pick up (Australian Property Investor and Your Investment Property) as well as a number of books (some of which can be picked up in your local library) – https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/community/heads-up/6845

    Stick around – ask questions and continue to learn.

    Cheers

    Jamie

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    Profile photo of TaylorChangTaylorChang
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    Hi Nathalie,

    welcome to the forum  : )

    after many years of property investing I realised that sometimes people over complicated property investment.

    in fact, it's simple !  just like buying anything !  you have to take you time to shop around compare the price, compare the qaulity, crunching the number on your afforablity, asking people about the area, talking to people about their experience…….
    by chating with real estate agents, investor, tradies, local residents, knowing where the schools, shops and transpots are you can increase your knowledge

    at end of the day, it's actaully the more you do the better you become. there is no right or wrong way. just enjoy the journey. everyone can be your mentor in some area : )  you can be our mentor in your area as well : )

    Enjoy your journey
    happy investing

    Taylor Chang

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    Profile photo of sapphire101sapphire101
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    Hi Nathalie,

    Welcome and congratulations on starting your property investing journey.

    Some good advise given above and I'd reiterate that you will need to educate yourself as much as possible without complicating things. Probably the easiest way to begin is to keep things small. Start with a small project in an area you know well. This way you do not have to relearn a lot of aspects. You will have a good knowledge of the area, the types of properties, the people who live there and buy there etc. Also you can manage your investment easier.

    The key is figuring out what you want from property investing, how long you will give yourself to get there, what are your financial and risk levels and what strategy or strategies fit into each or all of these aspects. Am I an active or passive investor? Is capital gain or positive cashflow more important to me? Do I want to manage my investments? Do I want to project manage and add value by renovating or developing?

    To start off, some of the simplest, easy to read books on a number of property investing strategies are by Margaret Lomas and of course there is plenty or reading on every subject here on the forums.

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    Profile photo of Nathalie74Nathalie74
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    Thank you all very much very your feedback. I still have a few months left before that money is coming my way, so I will spent that time researching, learning, listening, asking, reading…

    I am going to my first  'Property Investing' seminar on Monday night. Is anybody familiar with Positive Real Estate? They are the people organising the seminar.

    Nathalie

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    Profile photo of TaylorChangTaylorChang
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    it's that run by Sam Sagger  and James Whilton ?

    they are very good. just keep educating yourself don't commit anything till you really comfortable with it.

    Taylor Chang

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    Just be careful not to sucked in to those seminar’s hyping it all up and pushing property onto you, not saying the PRE does however I have been along to a free 2 day work shop here in Sydney some time ago with them. They had some interesting presentations mixed in with loud pumping music which had the desired affect of exciting the ordinance into a frenzy. I took a couple of good ideas away from the weekend for free and was happy to leave it at that.

    Reading forums is a great way to get some fantastic information but as already suggested there are many great books out there as well.

    Don’t jump straight in, take your time and develop your strategy because you may find yourself stuck after your first foray into the market. Your strategy may depend on many things such as your income, debt, children, future plans, age, travel plans etc. Do you need higher cashflow in the deal…etc. Lots to learn but with high motivation and an end goal you will achieve it.

    Jack

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    Hi Natalie,

    Welcome to the forum and great to see you are going to give it a go. My experience share with you a couple of interesting points you might want to consider:

    1. Asking for a Mentor… Excellent first step in getting started in property. Just make sure the mentor has the credentials and CURRENT experience and property investing. If you find a great mentor, it’s advisable that you pay well for the information and help that they give you. The best mentors are people who are actually what I term as “Currently Active Doers” … They are the ones that are out there right now doing property transactions that are making them $20,000 – $100,000 at a time. Like all good professionals you need to pay for their time, please keep that in mind. Depending on the type of property strategy that you can choose and whether you want to be a passive or active investor will determine the type, level and duration of mentoring that will be appropriate for you.

    2. A Starting Point… A best place to start to get a long-term strategy or prospective we want to go is to read Steve McKnight’s book called “From 0 to 130 Properties in 3.5 Years (Revised Edition)” as it releases down the options of what you can consider in the property game both considering the pros and cons of each body strategy and also giving you the game plan of where you should be heading to in the future and for $32.95 it will be the most cost-effective, educational tool you can have to start with.

    3. Be Careful Who You Listen To … As there are a lot of “Just Talkers” who do not mind sharing their opinions/theories and on the other hand there are a number of “Doers” who share their valuable experiences.

    4. Information Overload … The way to kill action is to drown in too much information. I come across a lot of people who after two years are still researching the best way to property and they will never get out of cycle of looking for more information to try and find the best way of doing property. As you have requested, if you have a mentor … Then they [1] guide you in selecting a property strategy that suit your lifestyle and time commitments. [2] They will then help you source the type of information that will be most relevant to the property strategy that you prefer, [3] you can then take action and [4] finally if you run the hurdles they will either be the best person to help you resolve the issue or [5] they will know somebody is better qualified to help you out. This approach is the best way of getting started in a cost-effective manner without spending too much money on researching a whole number of strategies or by drowning in too much information that will hinder you from making a decision on which way to go in a timely manner.

    5. Action Will Always Beat No Action … Thing is to get started with the right level of knowledge and a sounding board (mentor) to help guide you along the way. You’ll learn so much more as you get out there and do it than reading the theory about how to do it.

    6. Risk And Reward … “Like a lot of people, I am very scared of making the wrong decisions.” By having a mentor they should be other guide you from their experience the best way of doing things and also be able to help you overcome the hurdles as you go along. From my experience you need to understand that you always make mistakes and that is how you learn effectively however it is nice to have a mentor there as a sounding board and is a person who can get you out of a sticky situation at one arises.

    I hope this helps you out if you have any more questions please feel free to ask us. Check out our Facebook page etc. (website will be coming soon). As we often give helpful hints on deals that were currently doing.

    Kind regards,

    Jason Moore and Sherry Ortiz

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    Profile photo of CatalystCatalyst
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    Do not sign up for their mentoring service (was $8000 last time I looked).

    They have properties to sell which are "amazing" of course.
    As mentioned- tread carefully. I was always taught to be careful of listening to people who have a vested interested in your purchase.

    By all means go, listen then take that info away and build on it. Talk to others there. You may meet a like minded soul.

    Profile photo of Nathalie74Nathalie74
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    Dear all,

    Thank you so much for all your responses. I'm getting more and more excited about the whole property investing business.

    I actually went and bought a few books today (one of them being 0 to 130 properties in 3.5 years – revised edition, and only paid $22.95 :) ) Also bought Investing in the right property now by Margaret Lomas. This is the one I started reading today and I haven't been able to put it down yet. I'm glued to it. Although this is just the beginning of my journey, I feel like I have already learned a few things.

    Not sure if anybody could guide me in the right direction with this query. As I have mentioned I have a bit of money coming my way. My dad recently passed away (hence the money coming my way). I'm originally from Belgium where I spent the past 2 months to attend his funeral and spent time with my family. I'm back in Australia now, but am thinking of moving back to Belgium for a few years. What I want to do is buy an investment property here (cash flow would be my preference) and hold on to it for a few years until I come back, and expand my portfolio from then onwards.

    Does anybody know how this situation would work with regards to tax, mortgage etc etc etc… Or could anybody guide me in the right direction of where to get this information from.

    Thank you. Back to reading now :)

    Nathalie

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    I'm a mentor for free to people who have genuine questions. I will not ever specify specific areas to invest in .. or specific types of property to invest in .. on an as per needs basis. I am there to educate people to making better property decisions.

    I dont give all my experience .. but i can give sound guidance and reasonable tips for those who are seriously looking at doing things in real estate.

    Every person's circumstance will be slightly different from anothers. Since you have a tax issue coming up with moving back to another country .. you should seriously explore your options with this.

    There are all sorts of variables that come into a property purchase and should always be considered when purchasing a property. And each person's requirements for the purchase will be different. Since you will play absent landlord on a property if overseas .. you will need a fantastic property manager OR a friend who oversees property maintenance. Or .. a low maintenance property.

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    lets say i inherited $250,000 i could bye one property worth $250,000 and enjoy the rental return of lets say about $280 per week and wait for capital growth of say 4% per year =$10,000 per year, or i could bye four properties of total p/p of aprox $1,000,000 and use my $250,000 as the deposit to borrow the rest. i would not have a rental return every week as rents would go toward the repayments of loans and they would found themselves and if i got 4% per year capital growth on $1,000,000 = $40,000 per year

    Profile photo of CatalystCatalyst
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    blocka wrote:
    lets say i inherited $250,000 i could bye one property worth $250,000 and enjoy the rental return of lets say about $280 per week and wait for capital growth of say 4% per year =$10,000 per year, or i could bye four properties of total p/p of aprox $1,000,000 and use my $250,000 as the deposit to borrow the rest. i would not have a rental return every week as rents would go toward the repayments of loans and they would found themselves and if i got 4% per year capital growth on $1,000,000 = $40,000 per year

    Yes it's called Leveraging your money.

    Nathalie. Seeing that you are intending to go overseas for a few years it's important to get the structure right (well it always is).

    If the area suits you, you could buy a property and live in it for 6 months before moving. That way you can claim it as your PPOR and not pay capital gains if you rent it out for less than 6 years (and then move back into it).

    As mentioned a low maintenance property would suit your situation PLUS a good property manager AND an area with low vacancy rates.
    Margaret Lomas advocates cash flow and some of her recommendations are regional. Be careful if you want to do that due to higher vacancy rates and (sometimes) poor CG. After reading both your books you'll soon see that "experts" have different strategies. Yes they have all made money and are the "experts" but it's up to you and your unique circumstances as to which you go with.

    Keep reading and asking questions. Careful!! It's addictive.

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    I could give you a few legal tips on how to structure things, particularly asset protection if your money is still overseas.

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    Likewise, happy to chat and help if i can. Experienced investro and mentor having transacted in every capital city (except Hobart) and Auckland in NZ.

    Profile photo of Nathalie74Nathalie74
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    Thank you for your comments.

    I just came back from my first seminar (Positive Real Estate). I was really surprised about how few people attended. I excpected a full house, but there were only 11 of us.

    Really interesting though. I feel like I learnt something, which is a good feeling. I'm even more motivated now.

    On avergare, how much $ would I be looking at if I were to agree to get a mentor to hold my hand?

    Nathalie

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    Hi Nathalie,

    I'm sure lots of people would be happy to be your mentor, at a price! We do free podcasts which might help you get started in property investing. Head over to iTunes (you can search "investing" or "property investing" and look for EPI, or go to our website to have a listen. We release a new podcast every fortnight and there are quite a few in the archive – I reckon it's worth a listen, and it's free!

    We also do mentoring, but that comes at a price.

    Have a listen and see what you reckon.

    And good luck with your investing.
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    Den

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    Hello Nathalie,

    I am assuming that seminar was an evening one and not a weekend one. Even for an evening seminar that seems extremely low turnout For the Positive Real Estate Group. My experience of we are looking for a mentor is in the next week or so reading Steve McKnights book 0 to 130 properties and 3.5 years just so you can get a grasp on property in general and shortlist the property strategies that are most appealing to you. Once you’ve done that you can then find a mentor who specialises in those particular strategies. When talking to potential mentors treat it like you are giving a job interview and asked them for [1] where they have come from [2] what they currently doing in relation to property investing [3] what they can offer you [4] and what you can offer them.

    Hope this helps.

    Jason Moore and Sherry Ortiz

    Deal Maker | Great Property Deals
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