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    Sorry to be such a sook with this but I would like your advise, I've read many of your posts and I find your advice extremely valuable. I've only been in this industry for about 4 months.

    I was going to get my Cert IV via government training only to realise that I am over qualified, (that in itself is no mean feat). My boss however now is refusing to pay for training. This is an accountancy firm and he feels that I can learn the ropes from him but it scares me as I'm dealing with real peoples money if it makes any sense.

    Please advise, tomorrow. How do I impress upon my boss that he needs to pay for this? it's not even a question of money, I can afford it myself, but on point of principle this is becoming a deal breaker for me.

    yours

    NB

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    why dont pay for it yourself and claim back the tax at the end of the year?

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    I could do that. My question I think is this.

    Should I be making this an issue about investing in people? OR
    Is this just the way it is for brokers in accountants practices and I do things on my own?

    I'm just wondering about the way forward, is this a battle I try and fight for, or do I move on and pick another one another time?

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    Without pushing too hard, I think you should be making something of an issue of this. I'm not sure of the rules for accountants, but it's a requirement for any company with an Australian Financial Services Licence (AFSL) to monitor, provide and record training for their employees. Is there anything similar inn accountancy circles?

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    If you are referring to cert 4 in mortgage broking you might think about the fact that this industry will be more regulated and brokers will require cert 4 for mortgage broking in the future.

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    newb4000 wrote:

    I'm just wondering about the way forward, is this a battle I try and fight for, or do I move on and pick another one another time?

    Question you need to ask yourself is:”are you happy where you are?” If so then pick the fights that are really important to you – if this is one of those then fight, if not then don’t.

    If you are not happy, then look for an employer that does get their employees certified and make it a clause of your employment contract…

    I just changed employers who are happy to pay for my future training. After 4 years of trying I had enough and moved on.

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    Thanks

    I do believe this can be a good job here. and I do want to forge a career within mortgage broking. I'm just trying not to be disillusioned by the attitude before me. I'll work on a pitch. Thanks for your advice.

    Profile photo of newb4000newb4000
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    Well…

    He's paying. It was important to me, I needed to know that he was someone that believed in investing in people. It's for me now to show him that it's a sound investment because as we grow, I would want others who join the company not to have the same pain that I have had but enjoy the benefit of a qualified, professional education in this industry.

    Thanks again
    Newb

    The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.

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