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  • Profile photo of mpertilempertile
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    Steve,

    I remember at your Market Update in melbourne earlier in the year, you flagged the idea that the next property boom might begin when variable interest rates are back to 7.8%.  The latest lot of interest rate falls have now got us down to that magic number.  Are you still of the same opinion, or do you believe that the external factors on the economy will prevent such a boom from happening?

    Cheers.

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    No crystal ball to tell you… even though the smartest economist.

    It is interesting to see when inflation hits > 5% and unemployment rate hits > 5-6%… Property market depends NOT ONLY the fluctation of interest rates.. but others external factors as well.

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    What is with the idea that life is just one big never ending boom ?

    Wealth does not come from the ether you know.

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    mpertile,

    Not exactly sure what Steve made the basis of the 7.8 statement but as a general observation over the years 8 seems to produce different outcomes depending on the market at the time.   When rates are low (5-6) and climb then 8 is the figure that makes people start to sell but when rates have been high 10-upwards it brings investors back to the market.

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    Thanks for the question.

    The short answer is… 'yes', as interest rates come down, the conditions for a revival in the property market become more present.

    This is simply because people can buy more house for less money, and the difference between what it costs to rent and own decreases.

    Add to this the government's stimulus package for first home buyers, and you have all the right conditions for an eventual turn around in housing markets.

    However, you will also remember me saying at the seminar that markets are more driven by emotion than economics. Clearly there is a lot of fear in the market and that fear is causing people to hold off investing decisions.

    The market is thus split:

    1. Bottom / Middle: Encouraging signs of tentative price growth
    2. Middle / Upper: Flat and price falling as more sellers than buyers

    Once the sentiment turns though, property prices across the board will increase, particularly if real estate is seen as safer than stocks and offers a better return than cash.

    Don't hold your breath though… this may still be some time away as the interest rate cut in the current market is little more than a match thrown in to a damp pile of wood.

    All the best,

    Steve McKnight | PropertyInvesting.com Pty Ltd | CEO
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    Steve – I have been a guided by your information and advice over the last 5 years and have been quite successful – thankyou – I have just read how to achieve wealth for life through property investing by Tony Melvin and Ed Chan – are you prepared to comment  on their road to wealth?? Just looking for discussion on their different view point .  

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    hbbehrendorff wrote:
    What is with the idea that life is just one big never ending boom ?

    Wealth does not come from the ether you know.

    I have a question for you hbbe…,
    What did 1 dollar buy you 200 years ago, what does it buy today and what will it buy in 200 years time?
    hence property will start to boom, more money will be printed, distributed, inflation kept under control, businesses expanding etc.
    IMO Property booms are created by govt so your so called NWO group can make even more money, not destroy the world.

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    bombine wrote:
    I have just read how to achieve wealth for life through property investing by Tony Melvin and Ed Chan – are you prepared to comment  on their road to wealth?

    Aren't these the same authors who wrote a book about using your super money to buy property?

    I believe Steve said himself, that using your own super to borrow money is one of the most riskiest investment decisions you can make.

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    alani wrote:
    hbbehrendorff wrote:
    What is with the idea that life is just one big never ending boom ?

    Wealth does not come from the ether you know.

    I have a question for you hbbe…,
    What did 1 dollar buy you 200 years ago, what does it buy today and what will it buy in 200 years time?
    hence property will start to boom, more money will be printed, distributed, inflation kept under control, businesses expanding etc.
    IMO Property booms are created by govt so your so called NWO group can make even more money, not destroy the world.

    These are my thoughts also. The NWO will have no financial gain in a world wide collapse.They want things to continue to roll along so they can make more money. You just have to be smart and try to get your small piece of the pie.

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    alani wrote:
    hbbehrendorff wrote:
    What is with the idea that life is just one big never ending boom ?

    Wealth does not come from the ether you know.

    I have a question for you hbbe…,
    What did 1 dollar buy you 200 years ago, what does it buy today and what will it buy in 200 years time?
    hence property will start to boom, more money will be printed, distributed, inflation kept under control, businesses expanding etc.
    IMO Property booms are created by govt so your so called NWO group can make even more money, not destroy the world.

    I partially agree with you that Government does play a role in creating these bubbles,  But the main cause is the privately owned central banks as I have covered in previous posts

    As for the dollar,  Yes,  Our dollar like all other made out of nothing fraudulent scam fiat currency's that can be created by the click of a button on a computer,  Its made up wealth deteriorates by 5-10% every year,  You could call it inflation tax.  So obviously the number of digit's that represent the value of property is going to increase.

    Everyone keeps going on about how the market will eventually turn around and profits and capital gain will be made again,  I know that,  Obviously property will be more expensive in 20 years then it is now,  But what I am worried about is people who will loose all there life savings in the downturn.

    You could have millions of dollars in the bank now,  But it won't help you if Bread was $1000 a loaf, Fuel cost $20,000 a litre and a nice piece of steak cost $250,000

    Go to Wikipedia and type in Hyperinflation,  There is examples of over 30 countries that have experienced hyperinflation since the 19th century,  Lets go through a few for the lazy people.

    Argentina,  1975 to 1991:  overall impact of hyperinflation: 1 (1992) peso = 100,000,000,000 pre-1983 pesos.

    Austria: Between 1921 and 1922 inflation was 134%.

    Bolivia: Bolivian note for 1 million pesos was worth 55 cents in US dollars, one-thousandth of its exchange value of $5,000 less than three years previously,  Boliviano was replaced by the boliviano  at a rate of 1,000,000 : 1.

    Brazil: 1986 to 1994 1 (current) real is the equivalent of 2,750,000,000,000,000,000 of those old reals

    China:  1948-49 The 1948 currency reform replaced the yuan by the gold yuan at an exchange rate of 1 gold yuan = 3,000,000 yuan. In less than 1 year

    Georgia: 1994 In the 1995 currency reform, a new currency lari was introduced with 1 lari exchanged for 1,000,000 coupons.

    Germany: 1923  1,000,000,000,000 old Marks were exchanged for 1 Rentenmark

    Greece: 1944 The Greek inflation rate reached 8.5 billion percent per month (prices double every 28 hours).

    Hungry: 1945 The rate of inflation was 4.19 quintillion (4.19 x 1018) percent

    Israel: Inflation accelerated in the 1970s, rising steadily from 13% in 1971 to 111% in 1979. From 133% in 1980, it leaped to 191% in 1983 and then to 445% in 1984

    Zimbabwe:  Early in the 21st century Zimbabwe started to experience chronic inflation. Inflation reached 624% in 2004, then fell back to low triple digits before surging to a new high of 1,730% in 2006

    United States: During the Revolutionary War, the Continental Congress authorized the printing of paper currency called continental currency. The easily counterfeited notes depreciated rapidly, giving rise to the expression "not worth a continental."

    There are only some of the examples,  But like every other time I talk about inflation all the lords of wisdom on this site poke silly remarks and say everything is fine and that everything will be fine and that inflation doesn't even exist,  that it is just a conspiracy theory,  Especially if I mention the word Gold,  everyone will start laughing,  But thats ok,  They can continue to all live in there bank deposit's secured,  Property boom 2009 fantasy world for now.

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    Reviving this post….

    Although interest rates have fallen, clearly the gloom is placing pressure on property prices.

    The near term prognosis remains gloomy, which is why I continue to recommend trading in and out, rather than buy and hold.

    Just because something is cheap does not mean that it is good.

    Cheers,

    – Steve

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    Steve,

    The near term picture may indeed be gloomy, but doesn't the longer term picture look very solid for Australia?

    Continued strong population growth (both natural and through immigration), continued decline of household sizes and if anything a shortage in supply would suggest property values are likely to continue along their long term trend. Housing affordability may be an issue but I doubt that will drive pricing, but rather force the demand towards much more medium-high density housing (like e.g. in Europe).

    Add to that the Australian economy is one of the best placed in the western world to avoid recession, fiscal structures that are more robust than countries (e.g. UK and US), plenty of room to maneuver for the RBA with relatively high interest rates and a vast amount of commodities which will continue to remain in high demand (indeed, maybe at reduced prices) I see quite a rosy future for Australia beyond what might indeed be a turbulent 1 – 2 years.

    With that in mind I think the next 6-12 months, when the market is likely to be at its softest, could be a very good buying opportunity for investors who keep an eye on longer term growth trends…

    But, you've made your money in property and I haven't (yet) so would be interest ed to hear what you have to say…

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    Good post ErikH,
    Seems like Steve got it wrong this time…

    Regards,
    David

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