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  • Profile photo of Karl and RitaKarl and Rita
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    Hi

    Does anyone know the basic costs of subdividing in Ipswich? I am looking for a rough idea to determine whether it is worth it.

    Cheers,

    K&R

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    Profile photo of AmandaBSAmandaBS
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    Hi Karl & Rita,

    We live in the Ipswich area and have done a couple of subdivisions. Probably the biggest cost with subdividing is time. Here’s an extract of a document off our website that will get you started:

    <b>What is Subdividing?</b>
    Subdividing is when a piece of land is split into two or more pieces (ie separate lots). The process is controlled by the local Council. Planning codes and procedures vary significantly between Councils and also between States and Territories, as do the relevant fees and charges.

    Factors to examine when considering a Subdivision
    • Local town planning regulations

    Land zoning restrictions
    Minimum size of lots
    Access to water and sewerage services
    Setback requirements
    Minimum building envelopes
    Parks and open space
    Easements
    Vehicle access including Council refuse collection
    Storm water management
    Increased noise from new development
    Environmental and heritage issues

    <b>Hidden Costs</b>
    A subdivision can take several months (and sometimes even years) to complete so you must factor in your holding costs such as:
    • Interest
    • Rates
    • Land maintenance – (eg slashing and weed control)

    Many astute Developers make the purchase contract for the land subject to the acceptance of a Development application approval with Council. This is usually done with an option agreement (see your Solicitor for more information)
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    <b>Dividing the Land</b>
    Before you rush out and build a new dividing fence in your backyard, you should first consult your local Council for specific guidelines and costings, as it is imperative that the property is divided correctly. Any errors at this stage will cause major problems further down the track.

    <b>The Process</b>
    Most Councils require a Development/Planning Application to be lodged, together with details and drawings of your proposal. A Town Planner or Surveyor can assist you with this process, and they may also be able to give advice regarding conditions that the Council is likely to require.

    Before lodgement of the Application, you can ask the Council for a “Pre lodgement” meeting to discuss your subdivision and determine what issues will need to be addressed in the Application.

    When the Council receives your application, they may require you to erect a notice board for public viewing. The purpose of the board is to alert the public of the proposal by providing details of the subdivision. The Council may also write to the owners of the residents of the neighbouring properties advising of your intentions. We suggest that you contact the Council to find out what procedures your local Council uses.

    Additional information the Council may require
    Water and Sewerage
    • Are existing services available?
    • Can the existing infrastructure cope with increased use or need upgrading?
    • Is permission required from neighbours to access property?

    Storm Water
    • How will storm water run off be managed?
    • Is a drainage pit required?
    • Are tanks required to regulate the flow of storm water?

    Noise
    • Will existing main road traffic noise affect the subdivision?
    • If so, how will this be reduced? (Fences and/or earthworks)

    Soil Conditions
    • Do the soil conditions (eg.sand, clay) impact on road and footpath design?
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    Other issues
    Footpath
    Lighting
    Signage

    Issues for the Developer to consider
    For the Developer there are also other issues to consider such as:

    “Wasted” land due to unusual configurations
    Steep slopes
    Flood-prone land
    Other planning overlays (ie restrictions)
    Other factors that may reduce the number of lots and so profitability.

    <b>Approval of the Development Application (DA)</b>
    The approval process for your Application may take several months depending on the complexity and size of the subdivision.

    You will then be issued with a conditional approval covering topics such as:

    Developer to supply a plan of survey and mark land with survey pegs
    Road reserve
    Easements over stormwater, water and sewage mains
    Requirement that storm water pipes be designed to cope with a “1 in 100 year” event.
    Dust control
    Hours of permitted work (usually Mon – Sat 6:30am to 6:30pm)
    Headwork contributions to be paid by Developer
    Open space (parks)
    Social infrastructure
    Road infrastructure
    Water infrastructure
    Sewerage infrastructure
    Street scape contribution
    Disposal of cleared vegetation
    Entry walls or features
    Connection fees to live sewer mains
    Road (width, pavement depth, footpaths, kerb and channel, ramp profiles)
    Street lighting
    Fire Extinguisher (Battle axe blocks)
    Underground electricity and phone
    Erosion and silt management
    Maintenance period of roads
    Retaining walls
    Fire ant inspections
    Portable long service leave for Building and Construction Industry
    If you are not satisfied with the Council’s decision, you may apply for a review.

    <b>Operational Works</b>
    Before work can begin, you will need to engage the services of a Civil Engineer to design and draw the sewer, water, road, footpaths and any other Council requirements.

    This is a separate application usually referred to as “Operational Works” and attracts additional fees and charges.

    <b>Final Stage</b>
    All civil work will require Council and Engineering certification. When the subdivision has been completed to the satisfaction of the Council, you can then apply to register each separate title deed.

    <b>Conclusion</b>
    Land subdivision is a $mart way to fast track profits into your investment portfolio. However, as with all investment decisions, thorough research is necessary in order to balance the level of risk associated and ensure that the process runs as smoothly and quickly as possible, and that the best, most profitable outcome is achieved.

    As you can see from the above there are a lot of issues to be considered so I can’t give you a $$$ estimate as it depends on what’s involved. If you need a referral for a Civil Contractor and Engineer then drop me a PM.

    Best wishes,

    AmandaBS
    http://www.propertydivas.com.au
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    Profile photo of cruzinbudcruzinbud
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    Hey AmandaBS,

    I know from another forum that you said its taken a few years for one of your subdivisions to go through, is this commonplace or is it generally quicker, like 6 months or so? Are there any reasons that this one took so long or is that the general time frame?

    Also have you heard if they are going to put a new highway from Ipswich into the city?

    Cheers,
    Cruzinbud.

    Profile photo of AmandaBSAmandaBS
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    Hi cruzinbud,

    We started the subdivision we are currently working on in Oct 2004 so its been a long haul. You can read a bit more in our monthly newsletter :
    http://www.propertydivas.com.au/5Tools/NewsStand.aspx

    Each stage takes time. Sound reports, Engineer reports to test if the current sewer/water lines could cope with the extra usage, surveyors doing plans on land contour, designing the road, and the list continues…… Just waiting and chasing up for quotes from Civil Contractors took 5 months and then we needed to wait for our turn for work to commence, then it rained…….The latest delay was during final inspection last Friday the Engineer, Plumber, Contractors & us all turned up to the scheduled meeting, but Council were a no show, so its back in the cue we go. Very frustrating, but we don’t want to make too much fuss or they may not give final approval!!! As the land is vacant we receive no income, so my advice would be to seek a house on a large block, rent it out, and chop off some land, so you don’t have the constant cash drain.

    Re Ipswich Road. There was talk last week about upgrading the Ipswich Hwy but its all gone quiet but something needs to be decided soon, either upgrade or a new bypass. They have announced this week that the preferred new transport corrider linking Ipswich via Springfield will now go through Yamanto and not Fliners View as origanally suggested.

    Cheers,

    AmandaBS
    http://www.propertydivas.com.au
    FREE online Property Resources

    “It is better to be inconspicuously wealthy, than to be ostentatiously poor…”

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    Profile photo of Sid YoungSid Young
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    Did you have to do any drilling for underground mines? I have been told it is now a reguirement to submit a geo-technical report that includes a drilling report?

    I am planning a 3 house development in Bundamba/Dinmore area and have been told of this requirement.

    Sid

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    Hi Sid,

    Check out if the property has a Mining Overlay to begin with, no point in doing the Geo-Tech if you don't have too…

    You can do this on PD Online (http://pdonline.ipswich.qld.gov.au/pdonline/masterplan/enquirer/default.aspx?page=search)

    The info listed above by Amanda is what I was referring to in my reply earlier (to the question you asked in my post)…

    Good Luck…

    Cheers,

    Darren

    (PS – Amanda, if you guys are still around, thanks for the detail provided, certainly helped me with a few pointers earlier on !!)

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