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  • Profile photo of Katiebaby84Katiebaby84
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    I need your expert help guys. I am looking to either invest in some property, or buy my first home using the FHOG this year.

    My mum and I have been looking around at units in Darwin for the past 4 weeks and have been keeping our eye on the market for the past 4 months or so. Everything in our budget (around 250,000) is pretty awful, but today we went and looked at a studio apartment in a great unit complex, very close to the city, secure, undercover car park, with a view to absolutely die for (you can see the ocean, across a great golf course – its unreal).

    However, im first year out of uni and the repayments if i buy it will be close to $300 a week….so its fairly expensive. However, I feel like if Im renting this year, ill be paying over $200 a week for anything half decent anyway, so I may as well be paying off my own home (and getting the grant and stamp duty concessions).

    What are your opinions on studios as a first home? The body corp fees are around $450 a quarter, and around $800 a year (rates).

    Ive never had a great opinion on studios, but the kitchen is amazing, it is aircon, it has a great bathroom and its in an amazing location in a great building…..and the view…..well, its priceless

    my dad left me a fair bit of money to help with a deposit when he passed away last year, so I would use this to pay a deposit of $24,000 straight up.

    Any opinions?? Thanks SO MUCH. [blush2]

    Profile photo of marg4000marg4000
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    Check out the finance – some lenders require larger deposits if the floor area is less than a certain figure.
    Marg

    Profile photo of JohnSmithJohnSmith
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    or you can’t borrow at all if it is too small.

    Be wary of anything smaller than 35 SQM. Avoid anything under 25Sqm

    Not saying you may not get some specialist finance, but remember one day you may want to sell, and all the buyers will have the same problem.

    Regards
    John

    Inspired Finance
    (02) 9944 7776

    [email protected]
    http://www.inspiredfinance.com.au

    Profile photo of dare_to_dreamdare_to_dream
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    Hi guys,

    Just a quick one…. Someone mentioned concession on stamp duty for first home owners?? Is this true, is their any states that give a discount on stamp duty as well as the FHOG to first time buyers???

    Thanks
    Paul[suave2]

    Profile photo of The ContrarianThe Contrarian
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    Hi Katie,

    Firstly good on you for thinking about the future… From what I gather you’re 22 and looking to purchase your first property.
    At the moment, I’m not sure how financially literate you are so for now I can only assume.
    (Atleast you sound like you’ve got your head screwed on)

    Now, you mentioned that you have around $22-25K to play with. The FHOG will also come in handy for you and I assume a stamp duty exemption also is available in NT (Actually I think you’ll find it will cost $20)
    If you were looking to purchase a PPOR (Principle Place of Residence), then the first question I would ask is
    “How much rent are you paying now?”

    Otherwise an IP may be the way to go ie. you can still claim the FHOG plus stamp duty exemption if you live in the property for 6 consecutive mths commencing anytime within the first 12 mths. Ie. You could move in on day 364 for 6 mths (perhaps you already knew this). You see the year-to-year advantage of have an investment property is that you get tax advantages… You’ve probably heard this before, but it basically means that in your situation, you will probably get a few thousand dollars each year in your tax return if you do it this way.
    (I can explain this if you like, but a tax accountant may do a better job)

    Anyways, as for studio investment…
    Ten years ago people use to say things like land appreciates, buildings depreciate, which from a tax point of view does make sense, but in regards to capital gains, you can still make money on a studio. Investing comes down to supply, demand, uniqueness & creating win-win situations.
    Basically the most important thing is… do you like it? If you do, than chances are the next person would… therefore you have created a market. Believe me! I’ve seen 12sqm studios selling for near $200K (I live in sydney)
    The thing I already like about the investment is that you say that the view is “to die for”.
    That would indicate to me that unless it’s going to be built out, it should hold onto it’s value reasonably well and even in choppy conditions, due to the uniqueness, appreciate a little over time.

    In regards to the property, it’s good to ask:
    How old is this building?
    If it’s brand new, that ofcourse would be ideal,
    not just for aesthetic purposes but also great come tax time.
    Is it in a good area?
    Always better to invest $20K more if it means the area is worth $30K more.
    How many square metres?
    You may find some lenders will only lend you 80% of the value unless it’s over say 40sqm internal.

    In regards to the finances, how much is the property?
    Can you pull together 20%?
    You see one of the biggest costs when you purchase without equity is what’s called LMI (or Lender’s Mortgage Insurance). Please forgive me if you already knew this.
    It’s basically an insurance cost to cover the bank incase things goes wrong…
    Basically the more deposit you have the less you pay and after 20%, you don’t pay anything.]

    This is roughly how LMI is worked out:
    For eg. on a purchase of $220,000…
    If you had:
    $5,000 LMI might cost you 1.40% of $215,000 = $ 3,010
    $10,000 LMI might cost you 1.24% of $210,000 = $ 2,604
    $20,000 LMI might cost you 1.11% of $200,000 = $ 2,220
    $44,000 LMI would not be applicable ie. $0

    Personal level:
    Now I would say… if you’re renting at the mmt, and you really like the place… then go for it :)

    However if you’re living at home, then perhaps save as much cash as you can and when something comes up
    start and start small. Don’t ever outstretch yourself. Remember (as you hate to hear it)… there are always
    good deals out there. A wealthy friend of mine use to say “the deal of a lifetime comes around every month” :)
    You see if you absorb yourself in investing books and material, then I guarentee you will become a wealth of information.
    Warren Buffet (Second richest man in world) states “money changes hands”…
    that’s especially important to note in socalled uncertain times (as the media portrays).
    You see when interest rates go up, 9 out of 10 people think this is a bad thing…
    But you see, money does not just dissapear, it simply changes hands.
    To make money in a market that is going up or down; that is where the true investor lies.

    You have struck a chord with me somewhat…
    Which is why I would genuinely love to help.
    I think especially because it’s rare to find someone young who’s seriously thinking about financial independance already.
    Do you know how much just $2,000 invested in Westfield Holdings in 1960 would equate to in today’s dollars if all dividends were re-invested into the company? I’m not kidding…. $300 million dollars. That’s the power of compound. I’m serious… $300 MIO.
    Now imagine today were 2046…. what would you have like to invested in when you were young?
    Imagine it were 2016 so on, so on….

    I would be more than happy to help out if you have any further questions.

    All the best…

    Regards,
    Anthony.

    “There is nothing scarier than ignorance in action”

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