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  • Profile photo of HappyHomesHappyHomes
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    I find it a double edged sword when being asked by agents: “what price range are you lookning at?” As I can see they ask for 2 reasons: 1) To see how much cash you have 2) to be able to only show you properties within that range.
    So, when they ask that qu, how can it be politely put to not ask how much, yet to still e able to look at places within my price range without them knowing how much i have to spend??[confused2]

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    Profile photo of AmandaBSAmandaBS
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    We usually get around this question by first telling the agent what we’re looking for.
    That is , mid priced basic family 2or 3 bedroom home, in average area, requiring some reno work, close to schools, shops and transport. Must be on a block of at least 800m etc…..Then give them a wide price range, say $200k – $300k and say it depends on the condition of the property.
    They are just doing their job by sifting out the tyre kickers so make it clear that you mean business and goodluck.

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    if I already know what I am looking for – I usually say a price range about 20k under what I am willing to pay as most agents will show you properties just above what you have suggested is your price – they cant help themselves!

    TD

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    Were looking for a new residence last year and simply said “high sevens mid eights.”

    Stupid agents tried to show us he latest listing, “was sold for 1.1 (owner builder so don’t know how he sold to himself but…) last year but rush in now blindly and you may get it for 990K..” Sold for 930K and I bet they regret it.

    smart agent told us “was on for 1.2M now 1040K but have a look and see what you can offer. “

    Both told the same, one we flicked one we will always listen to

    Agents vary enormously, good luck.

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    Turn up in an old bomb and ripped bogan clothes and explain that you have the money toaday from an inheritance/lotto win. However you are about 50 grand short of the asking price. But want to buy it today.


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    Profile photo of holdencommodoreholdencommodore
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    Amanda is spot-on. I’m an agent, and I can pretty comfortably say that if someone doesnt give you a range at all, they’ll sit in your database forever – whats the point – they might be after a 3bed with 2 bathrooms etc… but they vary from 200 to 700k.

    Like Amanda has said, give a range, or a figure that is flexible and see how you go. I know personally I’ll show people anything within their range if it meets their criteria – I hate waiting on finance etc – I’d rather get the deal done, so if something ticks a few boxes, it’s definitely worth giving the buyer a call – you’ll find buyers are happier and will come back to you in the long run if you find them something for LESS than what they wanted to spend.

    Maybe I’m not considered the norm as an agent though?! Good luck, and I would take Amanda’s advice

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    Profile photo of BMW330CiBMW330Ci
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    I rarely give them a price range at all.
    I tell them, it doesnt depend on my piggy bank, but the the property itself. If the property is good and I like it, I will give u an offer for that particular property.
    Every single property has their own set of qaulities and niche potential.

    Profile photo of Clint and AlisonClint and Alison
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    Hey there Impatient,
    Can I just clarfy, do you actually WANT the agent to help you find a property, or would u prefer to look on your own?
    Alison

    Profile photo of HappyHomesHappyHomes
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    hey everyone. Great answers,thanks. Funny there are such a variety of opinions! I think I will take on oard a little of a few, and widen my range ,plus state it will depend on the property, plus give more details of what I am looking for. That should cover all bases without disclosing whats in the piggy! Cheers.

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    Profile photo of Stuart MilneStuart Milne
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    My line is – Money isn’t the object, the end result is. If the property is worth it I will pay the money, if not I won’t.

    I always make my offers as promised to the Agents and as much as they dislike some of them they still always call me again and again as they know I will buy property. Now I have a couple of Agents who don’t even bother asking me about money. They just call or email me 3 to 5 properties and ask when I would like to view them. Works for me.

    They also come up with some gems like properties about to be repossessed by financiers, and some awesome Reno’s. I am generally always the first to be offered the stuff too before it’s advertised.

    Only last week I picked up a 7 bedroom house for $210k, with sensational proximity to all facilities. Needs a clean up but for the time and dollars the resale will be awesome…

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    Remember the old saying, treat others as u would like to be treated!
    Have you any idea how difficult being an agent is?
    Why do u think 95% of agents only stick the job for under a year.
    Apart from the unsocial ours, inconsiderate purchasers ringing at all hours including 6am on Sundays, Dealing with vendors who want ridiculous high prices, purchasers who want something for nothing. I think the hardest thing to deal with is the hostility,

    YES I am an agent, honest, ethical, hardworking. I cried buckets in my first year. Mainly because of the hostility and attitude from clients, both vendors and purchasers.
    YES I agree there are some real dodgy agents around, but please dont tar them all with the same brush.
    I had to grow a really thick skin to deal with my emotions, every day people treat you as if u are the scum of the earth, and quite honestly the more aggressive they are, the less u are liukeley to help them.
    I gave this matter a great deal of thought and concluded that buying and selling, naturally makes people very anxious.
    So what do I do?
    I remain calm and friendly and polite and quite often this is enough to reassure.
    If I come across clients who are openly agressive for no good reason, I am just not going to go out of my way to help them[human nature isnt it?]
    Please remember this, and perhaps give the agent a chance, BE NICE, and I can promise u that u will get a better result.
    Remember the agent has to take instructions from the vendor and work in their best interests, after all they are paying the fees. If there are two or three offers on the table why wouldnt they accept the best offer in front of them. Remember people do change their minds so take what is in front of u, it is their call.
    All this ducking and diving to try and get the property for slightly less is usually just an ego thing, and u risk losing a good buy, in the big scheme of things the amount involved is not worth worrying about.
    If you are not willing to change your attitude I suggest u put your money where your mouth is and appoint your own buying agent, then you are in control.

    Good Luck

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    OK……I sympathise with you……a little cjm.
    But !
    Why shouldnt people try and and buy a property for as low as they can. If people always thought about the risk of losing a purchase then they would always overpay.

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    Thanks for the sympathy

    I am also an investor and of course I too am always looking for a bargain.
    My main objection to the original writer is that as usual the poor old agent is always to blame.
    If u want to get a good deal, I will give u a few pointers.
    Dont treat agents as the enemy, give them some respect.
    Do your homework, ie know what is value in the area, pay for some research on rpdata, that way u find out what properties in the area have sold for, not just asking prices.
    Sort out your finance before you look for a property, get pre approval in writing.
    DO give the agent a price range otherwise u are seen as a time waster, u can always ask them for a list of current properties available.
    Register your requirements with a number of different agents, and dont make the mistake of asking one to find a property for u via a conjunction with another agent.
    Again if there are two offers on the table for the same property, the agent is likeley to recommend their own offer rather than a conjunctional as no 1 they will get the full comission and no2 the vendor has appointed u because they wish to deal with u rather than jo bloggs real estate.
    We do of course offer conjunctions but very often the out of town agent does not follow through the sale properly and I can recall several nightmare scenarios one of which involved a townee agent requesting a termite test on the whole block including the fencing posts which were steel! Both the purchaser and vendor get very stressed for nothing.
    If you are looking for value, u have to be detatched and accept that u will probably not be succesfull on a number of occasions. And dont get bitter and blame the agent PLEASE.
    Best scenario is to have a line of credit and be in the position to make a cash offer, also dont start adding pedantic clauses which will just piss off the vendor.
    My advice is to go in at a realistic price, if it is a stupid offer you will insult the vendor and get nowhere.
    Be as flexible as possible on settlement dates, offer to rent back to the vendor if they have not yet found a suitable property, but not at an inflated rent.
    Alternatively offer a longer settlement ie on or before a certain date say 2-6 months by mutual agreement, this way in a hot market as in Perth u are securing the property at todays price, and giving the vendor a breathing space to look at their leisure.
    We purchased a property last year and offered the vendors full asking price cash, via a line of credit, but got them to repaint internally and polish the floorboards, therefore the settlement was longer to allow time for the work to be done, and by settlement the property was worth substantially more.
    Basically try to cooperate with the agent and dont try to score points
    If all else fails I live by the adage of fairness, and remember what goes around comes around.

    AMEN

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    As another agent (see my earlier replies to this post), I completely agree with you cjm.
    Buyers: get cashed up and tell the agent – you’ll find that although the agent is paid by the vendor, they won’t get paid at all unless they make deals. Be creative like cjm mentioned, but make sure the agent’s you’re dealing with know that you’re pre-approved and ready to buy. They’ll find you what you were looking for.

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