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  • Profile photo of neilandkategormanneilandkategorman
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    Does anyone have any opinions / experience / advise with regards to investing in serviced appartments / hotel rooms?
    We have seen properties advertised in Melbourne with 8 or 9% net yeild – sounds too good to be true.

    Profile photo of Nigel KibelNigel Kibel
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    That sounds high for that type of product. Where are they?
    Generally with these types of investment you will not get little or no capital growth. Because these properties are deemed commercial in many cases you will only get around 60-65% funding. If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.

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    I have got 6 units in a regional centre which return nett 7%.

    These have a good outlook for Cap Gains growth, as I built them next to an expanding hospital. We are on 83% occupancy and looking at a rent increase at the moment.
    They are serviced and short stay. see my website below.
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    May I ask whether it’s marketed to you by a property investment group or you happened to find it yourself? If it’s the former, then take all the more care in doing your due diligence.
    I nearly bought into one and was fortunate to be able to pull out (though not without losses). But I received the most revealing bit of news last night when my finance broker told me that one of her clients locked in to one of these apartments only to realise that the bank valuation came in at $40K less than the purchase price. Furthermore, the fine print reveals that there is NO rental income for the first 3 mths! So now that person is struggling even to get finance to complete the deal.

    Having said that, depending on your strategy/goals, serviced apartments may have a place in your portfolio.

    Profile photo of Richard TaylorRichard Taylor
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    Yes many lenders run a mile when you mention serviced apartments however in saying this dependant on the terms of the lease agreement 80% would certainly achieveable maybe more.

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    With serviced apartments there is an added risk to the lender as they are not in such high demand. Some factors you should consider would be the size.

    The property would need to have a living area exceeding 50m2 to get a lend in most cases with the lender looking at 40m2 – 50m2 on merit.

    On 50m2 and over you would be looking at around 60-65% against the valuation of the property or contract price whichever is the lessor.

    A lender on a serviced or managed apartment would no way do an 80% lend unless maybe under a private or second mortgage arrangement.

    Andrew

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    We had a look at some serviced hotel rooms in central Perth and yes the suggested yields at first glance appeared attractive. However as Andrew has pointed out, size matters in looking for a lender and also location. Lenders are often very wary of lending in cbd area full stop. We chose not to proceed.

    jebro

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    These investments can be very good or very bad. I suggest you do a lot of research. My experience shows that because of reasons such as finance and apt size the banks are reluctant to lend a high LVR. Check the lease, exit options from the lease, return, how the yield is calculated (can be per night, pooled, fixed price/term etc.) Resales can be difficult but a good operator will manage and market the investment well.
    Look at a credible operator such as Mirvac Hotels (Quay West, Sebel, Como Sea Temple brands) Can usually find a good priced resale if you wait. Bonus are things such as no letting or agents fees, well maintained, paid regularly.

    Worth a look..

    pw

    Profile photo of Stuart MilneStuart Milne
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    I have to agree with Richard we can get 80% and in very limited circumstances even more on these types of properties through a mainstream funder. They do require previous experience in property ownership and there’s a few other guidlines I was under the impression the rules in relation to this were that they had to be over 38m2 perhaps I need to read the guidelines some more…

    The long and the short of it is this: If you want it buy it. If the shoe fits comfortably then put it on. If not don’t. Do your due diligence and ensure you have it right. Then obtain funding…

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