I feel less than entirely welcome on the Forum now, there are areas closed to me because I’m not a member of R.E.S.U.L.T.S. Posts in that section are there for me to see and show me what I’m not allowed to access.
When this RESULTS program finishes, will I be asked to re-integrate, to mix again ? Will I feel welcome ?
thecrest
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All the oruginal forums are still there with all the same faces.
All that has changed is a few new closed forums for the paid subscribers.
Any division is in your perception [biggrin]
Don’t build walls where they don’t need to be!
Have a great weekend,
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Originally posted by Mortgage Hunter:All the oruginal forums are still there with all the same faces.
All that has changed is a few new closed forums for the paid subscribers.
Any division is in your perception [biggrin]
Don’t build walls where they don’t need to be!
Have a great weekend,
Simon Macks
Residential and Commercial Finance Broker
***NODOC @ 7.15% to 70% LVR***
[email protected]
0425 228 985Comments may not be relevant to individual circumstances. If you intend making any investment, financial or taxation decision you should consult a professional adviser.
I mentioned this observation as constructive criticism for the benefit of the forum as a whole, and for the attention of forum administrators, who I’m sure don’t want anyone to feel alienated or excluded, even if they are, and I am.
Sorry to cause unrest, sometimes criticism does not feel good to some people, especially if it’s not received well, that’s also a matter of perspective and professionalism, but I didn’t build the walls, someone else did, the walls appeared around me in the forum while I was there as a member. They weren’t there when I joined. They’re now fully in the face of members, and the first on the list of postings when each of us logs in.
The walls and exclusion zones are not imaginary.
I agree with you when you say, and I quote you ,
“Don’t build walls where they don’t need to be “.
Sage advice, send it to the wall builders.I believe the strategy to create the exclusion zones is divisive, and creates a negative impact on the cohesion of the forum, and should be revised for the benefit of members and the forum.
I doubt that a “forum not freely open to all members in all areas of the forum ” was the original intention of the founders.
thecrest
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hi thecrest
I’ll give my .002 for what it worth
I read the heading of the posts for the results groups and maybe I can answer a few but I look it that if they don’t what my advice why give it.
If they did then they would post in an open forum.
Maybe its just me put we are all trying to learn some are further down the learning curve if they dont need my advice and as its lock they don’t ha its no skin off my nose.
at the end of the day a bulliten board even thou it is usefull doesn’t pay me a dollar( the results group does pay steve)so is it a loss to me that there is a section is closed off sorry no.
I look at the posts and as I told someone earlier you have not take my seat I don’t pay for something that I can get for free
If I was one of the results group I would double post the question and see what people that you are not paying have to say.
I not one for yes men,but I also check my information.
the results group is the same as investing with gross realisation it a closed group that can only be joined when asked the only difference is you pay for one and the other you invest.
one is open (results group) and the other is closed.
and you cant join one no matter how much you wish to pay as its invitation only.
education is a cost and maybe steve is covering this market, its not a market I’m in nor is it a market I am going to join but if the results group are happy good on em and if they want that section so be it, it doesn’t matter, I think that a separate board would be better unless they are using the posts that you, me, and everyone else posts as train material to show what you should be doing.
but from reading the post heads I don’t think so.
so thecrest for me I won’t worry about it so much I would be looking at the next deal.
and make a profit.
spelling may be a bit out as I have a flight to catch in the morning.here to help
If you want to get involved in some of the projects I’m involved in email to [email protected]I think i have seen this issue raised a few times.
Dear Site Administrator,
Please only show forums that people have access to. That way no one will complain when they cannot access a particular group as that person will not see it.This is Steves site! He and his team have been kind enough to fund forums for public use. It would be wise to hide the ones the public cannot use!
Mat
Guys,
I’m in the results group. I can can tell you quite confidently that i put at least the same number of posts in the public access forums as i do in the Results forum.
If its something i think important, and want the best advice i can get (short of going to a lawyer/accountant), i’ve on many occasions posted it in both the results forum and on public ones.
I reckon many of you who are not on the results program aren’t on it because you don’t need to be (and never intended to be).
Of course, on the other hand there are a great many who tried but were’nt successful. I got a spot (lucky), but only with about 2 minutes to spare from it filling up (so i’ve been told, anyway).
While i am very happy to have a dedicated results forum (so i can see who’s in the program and talk directly about it), to be honest guys, the program is full of folks just like me. Those who are starting out, and have many q’s. More q’s than answers. The real big brainers and experienced people are those in the public forums.
The other day, a few of us results guys from the WA got together for a chat for the first time. We spoke of those on the forums that we admired the most. Those that answered the most q’s, and from whom we learnt the most. As far as i know, none of them are in the results programme!
They are all on the public forums. I’m glad they are there, and am very grateful that they answer my questions.
There are no big private secrets on results forum. If something earthshattering did get said on the results forum, believe me, we’ll all be asking q’s about it on the public boards (at least i will be.)
Cabo Wabo
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I agree with gross. I post all of my information on the public forums and with people like Gross, TerryW and others also posting on the public forum I honestly am not concerned about the results group and what is posted in there.
Between this forum and Somersoft I doubt you couldn’t find an answer to a question in the public forum. Of course if you want specialised advice on property development structuring, complex tax advice, specialised mortgage structuring, etc then you will always have to consult with your team of advisors.
Hi There
I don’t actually think that the fact that there are “closed” forums should implicate there is a “division”.
To me it indicates that there are people out there involved with propertyinvesting.com on a different level (neither higher nor better) by way of participating in a paid mentoring programme for their development.
The fact that they actually physically meet each other regularly sets them apart from the non-mentored participants of propertyinvesting.com as a whole.
You will notice that there is Live Wire for all mentorees then there is Preimium – which is a smaller group who are even more familiar with each other then the Standard group of mentorees.
The experiences and education that each group of mentoreess have shared is unique and relevant to them so I don’t actually see a problem with having separate forums for those who have chosen to go that way within propertyinvesting.com
I am sure that they do not exclude the general forums and have some great input into them and receive equally as well from the general forums. But, there would be some disuccsions, I’m sure, that would only be relevant to what they have experienced through their mentoring programmes and cannot see how allowing them to have a limited access forum facility could be considered a division.
That’s me off my soap box….hehe
Cheers
Dinahhi Dinah
merry xmas and sorry but I must disagree I’m not worried about the mentoring programme and I think that the point has been missed and that is.
I contribute to this forum to a learn if I don’t know but also to help someone with the knowledge I have.
I don’t mind the results group but must it come up when I can’t answer there question if they don’t want my answer do I give a r_ts( dazzling this will be the last time before chrismas I can use one of your quotes) the answer is no.
i have no problem with the results group but the people how have made a decisition not to join must have a system that it doesn’t come up.
people can join my group with no cost but you won’t see it spread every time you log on and you must be invited by me.
maybe its simple if you can log me out of the mentoring programme and I am them log me out of see the results forum.
Ha i’m no computer wizz but it seems simple to me and as I said before my information is free you don’t want it I won’t loose anything
I hope everyone has a good xmas and lets see what next year brings.here to help
If you want to get involved in some of the projects I’m involved in email to [email protected]Hi There
Yes, I get where you’re coming from and understand.
Thanks for the clarification.Cheers and best for NY.
Dinah
I guess that it is the initial impression after having been a member for so long that the change seems confrontational.
I felt that too when I started and made the suggestion that the RESULTS forums be collapsible so I wouldn’t have to scroll past them all the time. It has happened, to some extent and I believe that Steve is trying to sort out all the buggs, it just takes a little bit of time.
Meanwhile, I share and learn despite the RESULTS crew and things haven’t really slowed down for me. Now, I’m over it (“… have build a bridge…” haha).
Cheers
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