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  • Profile photo of motherhenmotherhen
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    hi all,

    i am wanting to buy this house on a huge piece of land in melbourne and develop 3-4 units/townhouses.
    i have never done developing althought i have invested in property before.
    can somebody tell me the complete list of things which will cost me time and money and other things i need to look out for in taking on this project.
    am i heading towards self destruction? is it worth it?
    please give me direction as the auction is on pretty soon and i am so not prepared.

    http://www.emex.com.au

    Profile photo of MichaelYardneyMichaelYardney
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    You say just a few questions but then you ask for a complete list of expenses and is it worth it.

    It depend….

    What will the land cost.

    Can you get 3 or 4 units on.

    May I suggest you need to know all the answers before you go to auction, otherwise how do you know how much it is worth.

    Sorry for the plug, but it sounds like you need a development project manager. Check out http://www.metropoleprojects.com.au

    Our job is to assist you with all the answers, but I cna’t really do it on a forum like this.

    Michael Yardney
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    Profile photo of Alistair PerryAlistair Perry
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    You definately need to do some due diligence with regard to the number of units you will be able to get onto the land. In addition to Michaels points, you also need to factor in time to get the permits and holding costs.

    Town planning is often a slow process, especially if the land is in an area where anti-development groups are active.

    You can have a look at the zoning, overlays etc and read the planning scheme for the area at http://www.dse.vic.gov.au

    Regards
    Alistair

    Profile photo of wealth4life.comwealth4life.com
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    Be patient!!!!!!!!!!

    If the numbers don’t work don’t do it.

    See an architect.

    Pay for advise.

    Run it by an accountant.

    Be prepared to lose your house if you stuff up.

    Resiwealth … Phil

    Profile photo of andycaseyandycasey
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    haha nice tip resiwealth:

    “be prepared to lose your house if you stuff up!”

    GOLD!

    Profile photo of DanTheManDanTheMan
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    Hey,

    All the guys have told you to do your homework first, and I fully agree. Don’t rush, as they say, the deal of a lifetime comes up about once a week. You will be amazed once you start looking for them, how unspecial this deal you are looking at will turn out to be.

    In the mean time, here is a good start to your homework. Note the dollars I have given are very rough, and will depend largly on location and project.

    Diconnect utilities $1,000
    Strata Fees $1,200
    Council Contribution (Section 94) $10,000 per unit
    Council App Fees $1,000
    Building Levi $2,974
    Land $???
    Loan Stamp Duty $1,000
    Building $1475 per m2
    Land Interest $?? (on loan)
    Building Interest $?? (on loan)
    Surveyors fees $4,000
    Strata consultants $1,500
    Demolition $10,000
    Landscaping $9,000
    Reticulation $2,000
    Communal services $9,000
    Loan app fees $1,000
    Artist Impressions $400 (to sell off plans)
    Architect $20,000
    Land Tax $1,200
    Accounting & Legal $2,000
    Closing Costs Purch $5% land value
    Closing Costs Sell $1000 per unit
    Agents Fees 2.5% of end value
    GST 10% of end value – GST Paid
    Quantity Surveyor $6,000

    Dan.

    The most important thing is to make the most important thing, the most important thing.

    Anon.

    Profile photo of shaztazshaztaz
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    Hi Afghangirl,
    I thought you might be interested in a book called ‘An Intelligent Guide to Australian Property Development’ by Ron Forlee.
    I’ve just started reading it myself, so far it’s very good and easy to understand. You can get it online through the Aust Property Investor magazine online bookstore. Here is the link if you are interested:[biggrin]
    http://www.businessmall.com.au/cache/header-18public__0-0.html?cache=no
    Regards,

    Sharon

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    Af /girl

    Same theme and  good advise on this thread also  mind you  posted in 2005-  now 2010 … hope its not the same property……….lol

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