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  • Profile photo of bootyliciousbootylicious
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    At the risk of sounding really dumb, could someone please tell me what a sleepout is? I will admit to being a pom by birth, and I have only come across this term since I have been looking at IP’s recently.

    Thanks guys![santa2]

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    Sounds like a bungalow out in the back yard. But in a condition probably not much better than a tent. eg. no dunny or bathroom.

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    Could be wrong, but I always thought a sleepout was an enclosed verandah such as the Queenslander style houses which have the wrap arounds but enclosed at the side.

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    It’s usually an area on a verandah that has been converted into a room. Not quite as big as a normal bedroom, but somewhere where the oldies can go for a lie down in the afternoon. Pretty common in QLD with the older houses.

    Ian

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    Usally an enclosed verandah made into a room. These rooms/ sleepouts usually have 2 or more door ways into them, you have to walk through another room to get in and they don’t have bult-ins there fore it is very difficult to convert into a bedroom.

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    Hi Guys

    NZ version of a sleepout can be at least two things.

    1. It can be a room built onto or inside a garage. It will be lined, lino or carpet on the floor. Big enough for a bed and table. Some will have a toilet and or shower and maybe even a small kitchen bench. Usually about 4mx5m.

    2. It can be an entirely separate room about the same measurement as above.Either can be built on piles(stumps) or concrete. Again with a toilet and shower, enough to be entirely self contained.

    I am hoping to build one when I move to Tokoroa soon, for the mother-in-law. Probable cost about $20k and will rent it out for $50 per week.

    There are a number of NZ web sites that advertise them. Do a search under versatile or http://www.skylinegarages.co.nz

    Regards

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    2. It can be an entirely separate room about the same measurement as above.Either can be built on piles(stumps) or concrete. Again with a toilet and shower, enough to be <u>entirely self contained.</u>

    In NZ you usually find a “sleepout” cannot be fully self contained. If the sleepout has full kitchen facilities it can be classed as a separate dwelling by the council.

    The way around it is to provide a microvave and one of those small 2 element cooktops that don’t have to be permanently wired.

    Variations of this are bedsits or granny flats

    Another sleepout is the one you have when you’ve had a few too many and lose your keys to the front door.

    Cheers
    Jeff

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    Hi Jeff

    You said

    Another sleepout is the one you have when you’ve had a few too many and lose your keys to the front door.

    Isn’t that being sent to the dog box?[baaa]

    Regards

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    Hi Muppet

    Yeah, the dog box – that’s happened before.
    I actually thought my key didn’t fit but it was a stick pushed through the keyhole from the other side.

    Jeff

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    Lots of old houses in WA have “sleepouts” too. They almost always are the old verandah that’s been closed in. Usually bloody cold in the winter and bloody hot in the summer… Also they almost always are located in the most inconvenient places in the house. Or they are located on the edge of the edge of the house…

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    Steph.

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    Growing up in country Victoria, everyone had sleepouts. A closed in verandah for extra sleeping space generally. It’s a way of creating an extra room for very little cost. Can be open with flywire etc for the windows in hot climates, or built as an extra room with boards and windows. Usually found on older buildings.
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    We usually refer to a sleepout as sleeping away from home, usually in another person's home or in a hotel.

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    Yes; closed in verandah as others have said.

    I like stories from older people who lived in large families. The girls would have one room, the boys would have the sleepout.

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    Its a enclosed verandah, typical in a Queenslander.

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    Hi booty

    No you are not dumb at all.

    I am a fellow pom and when i arrived in the mid 90's had no idea either.

    As has been mentioned it tends to be the build in part of the verandah that can be converted to another bedroom etc.

    In saying this i thought a handle in forum speak was a thing on the end of a broom.

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    Okay, so now we know what a sleepout is, do we need council permission to create one? Thanks

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    If it includes building a wall then you may require consent.

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