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  • Profile photo of jamestkjamestk
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    hi guys,

    Take a look at this graph please http://www.propertytalk.co.nz/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=76

    Surely this lead you to think the market in NZ must crash soon???

    Am interested in your REALISTIC opinions which of course will be non bias

    cheers,
    James.

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    Hi james

    firstly every thing you read has a bias. It is near impossible to not be.

    Anyway lets look at your question.
    Firstly i can’t see how on earth you ask the question will NZ property burst from that graph ????

    Secondly yes NZ has had a great year with property rises 22% on the year till March the best in the world apparently.
    However these are on the back of doing nothing for the past 5 years (don’t have my figure with me) Look at the Australian market prices have been rising buy 20% for the past 4 year each year (just an educated guesstamate). I believe australia is up 113% on the past 7 year.
    Living in NZ i can’t see the market busting here, we are still in the rising stages of a boom and we have not seen the property hyseria that Oz has seen. Yeilds are still a health 6-10% in most cities so it still looks attractive.
    So my thoughs are the NZ property market will keep going up (maybe not across the board).
    As i started with it is near impossible to be unbiased, i’m still selling in Australia and buying in NZ settle on 2 properties tomorrow.

    hope this helps
    regards westan

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    well as far as I can see it’s still got 5 percent to recover to the 1987 levels, which is not too much to ask, considering NZ is supposed to be in a boom…

    cheers-
    Mini

    joy to the world

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    For my comments on this topic see my article ‘Property Crash Lacks Evidence’ re NZ in thread https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forum/topic/10972.html

    “Make sure you can survive the downside, and the upside will take care of itself!” Donald Trump

    Profile photo of Michael RMichael R
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    The research we have conducted indicates many “locations” in New Zealand are between 30-50 percent of their true value – comparative to overseas markets, accounting for supply and demand, etc.

    Markets such as Auckland will continue to plateau in the short-term due to over-supply in specific segments – this does not translate to a downturn in the Auckland region as a whole.

    As for a “crash” there is no indication a severe market downturn is on the horizon in any location in New Zealand.

    Historically New Zealand has closely followed trends in Australia because it was a market confined to domestic and trans-Tasman investment.

    The extent of foreign investment and “awareness” in the past 2-3 years is changing this trend and positioning New Zealand as an independent and far more viable investment location/market than Australia – which will continue.

    Regarding the graph referenced in this post. Putting aside the two factors noted above [foreign investment, awareness] which have had a very positive impact on the New Zealand real estate market since 2001/2002, this graph indicates capital growth will continue to impact the market for at least another 2-3 years.

    — Michael

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    well i hope you are all correct as you are clearly supporting NZ.

    the graph makes me suspicious as it looks remarkedly similar to trends i have seen in the stock market and when prices spike like this they inevitably are followed by a “correction”. only time will tell and as usual i will just make sure i have a buffer to ride me through any downturn.

    so its business as usual, time to find a place in NZ :)

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    Stock market trends should not be associated with the real estate market.

    The stock market is very liquid and is traded in a completely different manner to real estate – RE takes time to buy and sell [trade] and therefore typically results in longer cycles.

    As an example, it is common for a stock [or equity market, i.e. NASDAQ, DJ, etc] to rise significantly in one day’s trading, sell down as quickly the following day, and rise again on the third. At times this trend occurs over a few hours. This same trend [cycle] can take months, or even years, in the property market.

    “i will just make sure i have a buffer to ride me through any downturn”

    — contingencies such as a “buffer” and/or “exit strategy” are the key to being a successful real estate investor.

    — Michael

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