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  • Profile photo of MTRMTR
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    Hi everyone, If anyone out there has found one of these lately, WHERRRRRRRRRE……. [:)]

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    Yes I found quite a lot of them at the moment because the market has cool down a little bit. It seem not many buyer looking into that area.

    Where? you have to do research for yourself.

    Warm Regards

    ChanDollars
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    Chan,
    What states are you looking at? Can you tell us that much?
    Thanks

    James

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    Every states got some +ve flow properties if you work hard to find!

    Cheers
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    PropertyGuRu
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    I have found some very interesting deals indeed… Just a matter of putting theory into practice. Anyone familiar with NSW? I’m keen to invest but am struggling for finance. Once started, then set. Anyone looking for a venture?

    sang-froid

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    Originally posted by milkmanjr:

    Chan,
    What states are you looking at? Can you tell us that much?
    Thanks

    James

    Every state got +ve cash flow property.

    Currently I am looking in NSW, QLD, SA and yes I found them.

    Warm Regards

    ChanDollars
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    Originally posted by spi:

    I have found some very interesting deals indeed… Just a matter of putting theory into practice. Anyone familiar with NSW? I’m keen to invest but am struggling for finance. Once started, then set. Anyone looking for a venture?

    sang-froid

    bear1964 looking for joint venture, may be you can contact him.

    Warm Regards

    ChanDollars
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    Originally posted by **PropertyGuRu**:

    Every states got some +ve flow properties if you work hard to find!

    Cheers
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    PropertyGuRu
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    agreed.

    Warm Regards

    ChanDollars
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    Are the properties that you’ve found been on the net, or via RE agents, or from some other method?
    I assume that most of the properties are still in rural areas of Australia?

    James

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    i have found some positive cashflow properties in nsw and queensland, both generate approx $50 a week, but need high deposit, generally firm capital gains areas, reply for more info, cheap spotters fee will apply-

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    Originally posted by paddymccabe:

    i have found some positive cashflow properties in nsw and queensland, both generate approx $50 a week, but need high deposit, generally firm capital gains areas, reply for more info, cheap spotters fee will apply-

    Hign deposit can make any property +ve!

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    That’s right you have got to be critical! Higher deposits and you will end up losing money. I don’t see iether of these being attractive. Although one makes $34.54 extra cash a week, the deposit is 50%. rather then the only numbers chaging in the first one is 20% deposit.

    Property bought on these figures at 20% deposit.



    11 Second Solution:

    Rent = 140
    Occupancy rate ‘3 Weeks’ = 94.23%
    Solution = $65960.00
    Asking price = $63000.00
    Deposit 20% = $12600.00
    Other closing costs = $3025.00


    Morgage details:

    Loan P&I = $50400.00
    Interest rate = 7.5%
    Term = 25 Years
    Weekly loan repayments = $85.95
    Total repayments for life of loan = $111735.00


    Summary:

    Total annual rent = $6858.80
    Total annual morgage = $4469.53
    Total annual costs = $2373.19
    Total annual cashflow = $16.08
    Total funded costs = $15625.00
    Risk free return = $625.00 bank interest rate of 4%.
    Annual Cash On Cash Return = 0.10 %
    Cashflow Positive Weekly = $0.31




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    Same property, all the same figures except changing the deposit to 50%.



    11 Second Solution:

    Rent = 140
    Occupancy rate ‘3 Weeks’ = 94.23%
    Solution = $65960.00
    Asking price = $63000.00
    Deposit 50% = $31500.00
    Other closing costs = $3025.00


    Morgage details:

    Loan P&I = $31500.00
    Interest rate = 7.5%
    Term = 25 Years
    Weekly loan repayments = $53.72
    Total repayments for life of loan = $69834.00


    Summary:

    Total annual rent = $6858.80
    Total annual morgage = $2793.57
    Total annual costs = $2373.19
    Total annual cashflow = $1692.04
    Total funded costs = $34525.00
    Risk free return = $1381.00 bank interest rate of 4%.
    Annual Cash On Cash Return = 4.90 %
    Cashflow Positive Weekly = $32.54




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    After experimenting with these numbers. Nothing changed the cash on cash return much more then having a less deposit.

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    This seems to be about demographic arrangements.

    Profile photo of kay henrykay henry
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    The quick answer, Marisa, for CF+ is places like Mt Isa, Morgan, Ayr etc in Qld… Broken Hill in NSW, Geraldton in WA.. lots of places, inclusding lots of rural places all over australia. Best thing to do is look up realestate.com.au and click on < price in the search engine. It will bring up heaps of houses, then do your research about those places in google.com

    kay henry

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    Originally posted by milkmanjr:

    Are the properties that you’ve found been on the net, or via RE agents, or from some other method?
    I assume that most of the properties are still in rural areas of Australia?

    James

    on the net as well as via RE agents, spotters, friends

    Warm Regards

    Chan Dollars
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    G`day Marissa,
    generally in the regional areas of your state.I live in country S.A.,and while they are rare in Adelaide they come up in my hometown regularly.Big country towns with stable populations.

    Regards Terry

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    Bottom line is now is not the time. Maybe 5 years ago was.

    I am sick of hearing people and gurus say – you just need to look harder – its your fault if you dont find them.

    Remember we are at the height of a property boom. Be patient there will be good opportunities in the future.

    Oh- dont forget interest rates may rise in the future which soon makes a ve+ become ve-. So I dont believe now is a good time.

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    Lets stop talking cashflow and start talking rental return. Rent devided by Price of the property. I know there is more to cashflow than that, ie rates, vacany, interest rate on loan, but this at least gives a more subjective starting point.

    I have bought houses in VIC in large regional centres with 8% rental return (bought in the last few weeks). Have a mate that has found 10% in small regional vic towns. Stuff still out there. easier to buy now than 3-4 months ago.

    Slum Lord

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    Originally posted by yack:

    Bottom line is now is not the time. Maybe 5 years ago was.

    I am sick of hearing people and gurus say – you just need to look harder – its your fault if you dont find them.

    Remember we are at the height of a property boom. Be patient there will be good opportunities in the future.

    Oh- dont forget interest rates may rise in the future which soon makes a ve+ become ve-. So I dont believe now is a good time.

    I am sick of those people that alway want to buy -ve gear property. and oh don’t forget interest rates may rise in the future which soon makes a -ve gear become very -ve -ve -ve gear. So I believe anytime is a good time to buy.

    Warm Regards

    Chan Dollars
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    Originally posted by SlumLord:

    Lets stop talking cashflow and start talking rental return. Rent devided by Price of the property. I know there is more to cashflow than that, ie rates, vacany, interest rate on loan, but this at least gives a more subjective starting point.

    I have bought houses in VIC in large regional centres with 8% rental return (bought in the last few weeks). Have a mate that has found 10% in small regional vic towns. Stuff still out there. easier to buy now than 3-4 months ago.

    Slum Lord

    I also bought couple at 10.5% yield. I agreed with you that it’s still out there and yes it it easier now to buy then before.

    Warm Regards

    Chan Dollars
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    Chan,

    Many of us know that one can buy CF+ properties. If people go to schinellas RE of broken hill, one can probably find dozens on their website.

    When you say it’s easier than it was before, I haven’t heard of any major downturn in prices for properties in regional or rural areas (presuming that’s where you got your 10.5%). On the contrary, I believe there’s still demand for the cheaper, more affordable properties- in regional areas at least. That’s what the REI’s say- particularly first home buyers have been buying in more regional areas (for example, in QLD, such as ipswich area, as that’s the only places they can afford.

    Please explain how it’s easier to buy cheaper properties now with high yields? [?]

    kay henry

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