Still in SchoolMember@still-in-schoolJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 1,844
Thanks for your reply and kind words, though i am very happy to help people on this board and answer as many questions that i can and try to give the best appropriate answer or advice. Thanks for those who have supported me on the forum and for the many of those who give me new learnings and advice, that i can share.
Cheers and thanks,
Dont feel parnoid, but feel iffy, it the vendor does seem willining enough to offer or wants to dicuss about renting back the property to you, after the intial date of settlement.
If an offer is made like this, maybe best to further do some more due dilligence or ask many of the locals what they feel and think the future the area your investing holds.
I wouldnt be too worried, property has one beautiful thing about it. When you sign the contract, make sure their is a clause or subject to “Approval of Finance”.
The Reason being for this is, that if the financial lender does not want to approve the finance, whether it be the whole amount or most the intended borrowed amount, this shows that there could be some significant or near future problems in, investing in that area.
Think of it like a safety net, a safety margin, that the banks are providing you, in doing so remember, that if they dont approve it, then dont take the risk of investing there, unless otherwise.
s.i.srdayrdayMember@rdayrdayJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 5
After ‘all’ that
you know what i ‘find’ funny.. rdayrday has not posted since his initial post and the ‘bruce’ rollercoaster started..
Ah well.. it amused me anyway
i just paranoid [?]
i thought i’d let the dust settle 1st
thanx for the advice all
You seem to have issues with me solely because I’m a journalist… at least that’s the impression I get from a thread a long while ago in regards to the media. Maybe I just don’t know what angle you’re coming from. I know nothing of your background, and to be honest, I’m not really interested.
I will address your concerns though. In regards to my post to SIS, I was just concerned with challenges of boasting sessions dragging down the forum. That was what I meant by “don’t need you shoving your successes down our throats, as commendable as those successes are.” Shoving something down someone’s throat is boasting… and SIS said he was up for a boast session against bruce. I’ve admitted that I could have written my initial post a bit better, and as far as I’m concerned it’s between SIS and me, and we’ve dealt with it.
As I said in my initial post to SIS, “you clearly work hard and are smarter than the average 21 year old, and you come across as a really good bloke, eager to help etc which is FANTASTIC”
– I stand by that… he’s one of the best contributors here.
“Property investing is about a lot more than just numbers of properties owned.” – I stand by that too.
Peter, why didn’t you read all my post and quote from it instead of taking a few words to put in your own context?
Anyway, I couldn’t be bothered having an argument over such things.
Cheers and happy new year, even to you Peter.
btw I’d make the clause “subject to finance with the purchaser’s choice of lender” or something like that…
>>Cheers and happy new year, even to you Peter.<<
The words ‘even to you’ really touched my heart Richmond, I can hardly talk, how charitable you really are, displaying the true X-mas spirit.
I bear no grudge against you however (as you apparently appear to think) and, yes,I did (and deservedly so) make a disparaging remark in an earlier post about how low life some journalists make themselves into when they completely ignore facts just for the sake of creating sensation (and hopefully some ratings for their masters) (and never mind the truth).
You may however also have noticed how graciously I backed off at the time after your defense of your colleagues even though you were trying to defend the indefensible ?
I had made my point and there wasn’t really any need to grind someone further into the ground.
Greetings to you all.
I think you all have alot to offer in your own ways, and beleive all of you (Bar one and he knows who he is) have your hearts on the right place, and thats what counts.
Keep up the good work, i have had very sound advice from u guys 
That is one interesting link isn’t it, its amazing how deceitful people always get caught out in the end 
I looked up Bear-o-philes in the dictionary but I guess its too outdated…..LOL
I wonder if some one has a vision for me that I know nothing about , and im going to lead a cult called Bear-o-philes………….PMSL
Regards BearthefirstbruceMember@thefirstbruceJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 133
Bear, it’s a new year. There’s no need to be puerile, vindictive, and spiteful. I won’t be responding to such in the new year, after this. It was one of my new year’s resolutions not to get caught up in schoolboy ego games or otherwise waste precious time.
You seem to think because I said I was an IP virgin at the beginning of December, that I still am. I have already posted what has happened since to dispel that. I was looking for a long time before I had the opportunity to buy; and had helped friends for years, as well as been involved with my parents’ acquisitions and managment.
If you think there is one post I have made giving my interpretation of all things property related, that lacks rationality or the voice of experience, then please do all here a favour and expose it.
I also stated I was an IP virgin out of humbleness for the superior wisdom and experience I might find on these two forums.
If you want to ignore all that, and carry around a head full of cynicism all year, then you have created an expensive opportunity cost in missing the chance to think more creatively and intelligently about how you can create win/wins in your new found role as a spotter/buyer’s agent, or whatever you want to be this week.
Evolve beyond the predictable and mundane Bear. Respond, don’t react.
Now, enough of this, I am going down to the beach for a New Year’s surf.
Bruce, it is obvious to everyone, bar you so it seems, that the problem is your behaviour in disclosing addresses when Bear was trying to earn a smallish kind of fee.
That was puerile behaviour if anything and Bear had indeed reason to be quite upset about you spoiling his little adventure.
But, as you say, it is a new year, a fresh start,
so let us all put that kind of behaviour behind us and move on.
Only those who have never made a mistake in their life are allowed to continue being upset.
Welcome to the New Year Bruce.
Pisces133Steve McKnightKeymaster@stevemcknightJoin Date: 2001Post Count: 1,729
I must have missed something here… a good post turned (in the words of Tony Greig) “Nasty”.
Richmond has my unqualified support – he does an ace job in difficult circumstances.
Think happy thoughts… and be nice to the other kids in the playground [^]
6 month lease
This seems like a Vendor’s each way bet to me. If they do sell then a six month lease won’t turn too many buyers (who want vacant possession) off, but if they don’t then at least they have income.
Sometimes it’s a good idea for purchasers, in this circumstance (who want vacant possession rather that the tenant) to:
1. Request vacant possession and organise settlement for one week after the tenancy lapses. This will give the purchaser some time (a few months) to sit back and benefit from any cap gains.
Be aware that each State has its own laws about how much notice must be given to tenants, so even if there is a six month lease you may need to allow another 30+ days from the date notice to vacate is given.
2. Include a condition that the property must be sold in the same (or better) condition (you’ll need evidence such as photos or a condition report) than at the time of inspection and indeed, the vendor must pay for the property to be professionally cleaned and sprayed for pests.
All too often I’ve seen a property sold on long settlements ‘let go’ by the vendor on the basis that there is no point keeping it clean… it’s sold anyway.
Yes… I’ve been caught out like this, but it won’t happen again!
Remember that success comes from doing things differently.
Steve McKnight | PropertyInvesting.com Pty Ltd | CEO
Success comes from doing things differentlyrdayrdayMember@rdayrdayJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 5
>>Richmond has my unqualified support – he does an ace job in difficult circumstances.<<
He has mine too 
Pisces133ADParticipant@adJoin Date: 2002Post Count: 636
I must say knowing Richmond that he is truly a great guy and keen to help others. If he says something here it would not be without much deliberation. I know there have been many times I wanted to say things but have held back to keep the peace and try and represent the term “Moderator” appropriately. Richo I know does the same. It isn’t always a lot of fun…..Keep up the good work Richo.
Cheers all and a Happy New Year…………….
It is good to have an end to journey toward, but it is the journey that matters in the end.thefirstbruceMember@thefirstbruceJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 133
Pisces, you say
“Bruce, it is obvious to everyone, bar you so it seems, that the problem is your behaviour in disclosing addresses when Bear was trying to earn a smallish kind of fee”
I am not a fool Pisces. And I would encourage you to live by facts rather than foolish emotional partialities, before perpetuating a witch hunt.
If you go back and read, free of emotion, the flow of posts, you will discover, to your own amazement, that I posted two addresses never given to me by Bear. I did this after he adamantly and derisively announced on the forum that I didn’t know what properties he was talking about. The fact that he stated I didn’t know what properties he was talking about should be proof enough he was confident he hadn’t disclosed the properties. That he chose to state this proves two things:
– that he never disclosed or even hinted details of what they were.
– that he was wilfully deriding my reputation on the forum.
Only after I posted the two addresses was there a chorus of “bruce is a lamer”. “bruce unfairly used information provided by Bear what they were”.
The logic used by my crucifiers is one giant non sequitir… Maybe Pisces you would benefit from looking up the meaning of “post hoc ergo propter hoc”.
Bruce u are going around in circles, we been thru all that b4. I said , and I Quote “Your facts are not correct for the properties i am talking about!!!!!!!!!!!”And in my opinion it was an accurate statement.As for the rest im not going to get into it again. Let sleeping dogs lie. Give it a rest!
People can make up their own minds!
Me no speake de Latin Bruce.
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