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  • Profile photo of DinoWebDinoWeb
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    OK,

    This is a soap box forum, so I’d like to type up and have my say.

    The thing that really gets up my nose is rent assistance.[:(!][:(!][:(!]

    For years, I have struggled to pay my mortgage and buy my home, when people earning more money than me get rent assistance.

    Most of these people will be renting all their lives and be a continual burden on the tax system.

    I want to pay out my mortgage yet get no help to do it.

    Why are these people entitled to cash when I am not?[B)]

    I am not asking for cash in hand, but I think the government could allow you to claim at least some, if not all, interst on a PPOR mortgage as a tax deduction.

    Dino

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    I’d settle for realistic tax rates (maxing at say 30%) like most other developed nations and the scrapping of CGT!

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    Hey Dino,

    You should take pride in yourself in the fact that you are out there fending for yourself and not relying on others for help. You should get a great deal of satisfaction from that.
    You wouldn’t want to be one of those people who rely on the government to look after them, beleive it is their right and end up getting nowhere in life.
    You have the right frame of mind to get somewhere in life, keep up the good work.

    Sue [:)]

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    Dino, don’t let it get up your nose, try and get it into your bank account.
    Get a rent assisted tenant into your IP.
    That way you are getting rent assistance to help help pay off your PPOR. ????
    Turn your [:(!] into a [:D].

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    quote:


    I’d settle for realistic tax rates (maxing at say 30%) like most other developed nations and the scrapping of CGT!


    So when are you running for PM ?? You’ve already got my vote !! [;)]

    I think the Government discourages middle to high income earners from working more with their exhorbitant tax rates…

    If i work seven days a week i get about $40 more in the hand than i do for a 6 day week…

    Thankfully thesedays i only work 5 days – but if the tax rates were lower i’d do some overtime… [:(!]

    Cheers,
    Paul…

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    for me personal what really pisses me off is dole bludges, there are so many of them and some of these pensioners come on, the ones that really need the hell get knocked back but the ones that are rippin the government off and havin cash on hand jobs or dont bother too look for a job but sit round and wait for the dole cheque to come in really get on my nerves.

    Its unfair we pay tax to support them and yet there the ones still complainin and sayin that they cant find a job or they want more money.

    i so much cant wait till they get stricter on the centrelink system and get some of these lazy people off there arses and get them to work for their money and stop relyin on the economy in supporting them.

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    quote:


    sayin that they cant find a job or they want more money.


    I don’t understand people can’t get job. I never had any problem. It can happen that you don’t get job which you want to do.

    its system which make people not working..

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    You can thank Gough Whitlam for Australia’s socialistic transfer payment system. Which other country in the world encourages single mothers?? I hate it when people walk into my fathers medical centre and flash their medicare card as if its a platinum AMEX and expect to be seen straight away. Things have to change in this country.

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    Hey Dino, my rent assisted tenant pays market rent, guaranteed 52 weeks per year – they are a subtenant of a housing group i let to. No agents fees, and guaranteed rent – I am about $20-30 per week better off with them than a private tenant and an agency. I know what you are saying, I struggle to be where I am as well, but everyone’s got to have a place to call home – thats what rent assistance is about – don’t measure it by the minority that stand out as bludgers. [:)]

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    Hi George,

    I suggest you have a look at the number of bills that were past when GW was PM. I think you will find that you have probably received benefits from some of them. Also Australia is not the only country that has a single mothers/fathers pension. In regards to single mothers don’t sterotype them. Some of them have been abused, bashed or raped. Most of them try to do the best they can for their children. Have a look at the percentage of single mothers who are at uni trying to create a better life for their children and themselves.

    C2

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    C2,

    Have you been to Blacktown lately or Gorokan/Toukley? I don’t see single mothers bashing down the doors at UAC?

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    George,

    Be careful about generalising, my mum raised my brother and I after our dad was killed in a plane accident 2 months before I was born, which makes her a single mother… it was a battle for her to bring us up, even with some token government assistance. I now have a good job, my brother’s an airline pilot and my mum is still the most inspirational and gutsy person I know, so when you’re in your dad’s medical centre next time, please don’t look down on people, just acknowledge that everyone has a different set of circumstances. I wouldn’t be so quick to judge unless you knew a person’s own story.

    Richmond

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    I’m sorry to offend anyone, my mother and father have grown up in similar circumstances to you Richmond and they too are professionsal, my mother is an economist and my father is a General Practioner. My father was migrant and my mother a daughter of migrants. And growing up in Australia of Greek Heritage was not the easiest in the 50’s and 60’s. However, I am not referring to genuine cases as yourself and my parents. I’m referring to 15 and 16 year olds that are falling pregnant and I have the statistics from the Dept. of Health Services saying it is quite epidemic. T

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    Hi George,

    It’s sad to know that there is an epidemic of “15 and 16 year olds that are falling pregnant”. They must be the ones who genuinely need help financially & emotionally. I hope I can help in some ways.

    I’ve been paying tax since my 1st job into my retirement. Sometimes I wonder why the Gov doesn’t spare me anything. They still tax me on my superanuation pension! But somehow I’m glad that I can support myself and my tax money can help many people in need. There are people just in any profession, social group who are cheating the system. Some people I know as well. It’s sad but I understand that nothing is perfect.

    Regards

    Huey

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    i have to say i dislike dole bludges too
    but at the end of the day some ppl do need it..

    unfortunately theres more bad then good…

    but who cares
    make your own
    and never look back…

    bird – dog

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    Sometime next year we will have the chance to change the federal government but I doubt that the sentements reflected in this post will gain much support from any side of the politicial fence!

    If you want to change it join a party, any party, stack the branches and make the policy part of the party platform. It is probably a four year project but it is the only way to go

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    I started this thread because I beleive it is unfair that some people are entitled to a benifit when others aren’t simply because they chose to buy rather than rent.

    That is totally different from arguments about “dole bluddgers”. I was one myself for about six months, and it gave me a new perspective.

    Yes, there are people who rort the system. Yes there are people who would rather stay on the dole than work. But having been on the dole, I can totally understand why many of them end up this way.

    For the most part, it is the system which fails, not the people in it. The fact is, there is no incentive for people on the dole to try to get anything other than good paying jobs, which many of them are not qualified for.

    While unemployed, my father offered me casual work, which paid up to $1000 per week nett. Unfortunately, this was only available once every 2-3 weeks, and generally required me to work hundreds of km’s from home, working 10 hours per day.

    In the end, I had to turn it down because of the effect it had on my dole payments and benifits, my availability to search for full time employment, and the limited amount of extra cash it gave me for 60 hours of extremly difficult work.

    People would not hire me for lower paid jobs, because I was obviously over qualified, and likely to leave if I found better paid work, and I was not prepared to work full time for less than a certain amount, which was the minimum I needed to provide the most basic things for my family.

    Until the social security system changes to provide real incentive for people get out of the system, I am afraid things are never going to change.

    Dino

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