DaveCMember@davecJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 79
Ok. I admit it!!! I have been a lurker but no more!!
Just wanted to take the time to thank all the property investing.com crew for all their help friendliness and guidance through the weekend.
Really great to catch up with you again AD and a special thank you for your help on the Sat night.
Davesushi03Member@sushi03Join Date: 2003Post Count: 33
I wanna thank Steve and the gang for an awesome weekend. The weekend was jam packed with valuable info that i am still getting my head around.
since the weekend i have been scanning the net for deals and ringing agents asking about properties and joined as a member with Guerrilla Realestate The seminar was probably the best kick in the butt i couldve had.
It was good to meet other like minded people and learn that for every problem that there is a solution.
Once again i offer my deepest thanks and cant wait till i purchase my first IP.
Alex B-PdynamicduoMember@dynamicduoJoin Date: 2002Post Count: 21
the pregnant hubby/wife team from Nambucca, glad to see Singapore has you back safe & sound & especially glad to hear you are fired up, you go girl
jazsaz[^]RouveleeMember@rouveleeJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 4
I’m new to the forum, but now is my chance to say Thank You to Steve and everyone at APIM for a wonderful seminar. As a newbie in property investing, there’s a lot of info to digest. I have to say that the ‘case studies’ helped me to understand the numbers a bit as I’m not very good at number crunching. I also have to agree with Lizzie that the ‘game’ got me confused and frustrated. Nevertheles, the whole seminar made me realize that you just have to get out there and take action. I would also like to say ‘HELLO’ to Sooshie. I have been reading the forum in the past and I admire you for always being there for other people’s questions/problems. I really regret not having to say ‘HELLO’ in person during the seminar. Maybe next time.
Rouvelee.jars11Member@jars11Join Date: 2003Post Count: 92
How is it that I didnt know about this weekend?AdministratorKeymaster@piadminJoin Date: 2013Post Count: 3,225
The APIM weekend has been advertised on this web site for quite some time now… but unfortunately it appears as though you may have missed the advertisements…
It really is a shame you missed the weekend, but I can still highly recommend the other products advertised on this site under the resources section as a great starting point if you haven’t already got a hold of them!
Graeme Smithjars11Member@jars11Join Date: 2003Post Count: 92
grimey, yeah I did that. Im new to the site though, guess i just missed it. 
ah well, next time. Steve, when’s the next one?NessieMember@nessieJoin Date: 2001Post Count: 73
Hi to you all
Wilinvest – you wanted to know how I went.
Firstly the Agent didn’t turn up at the property as arranged.[!] Rang him – agreed to met with him yesterday morning 9am.  Extracted even more info. This deal is 3 D’s all in one. The owner is deceased. The One of the 3 benficiaries is getting divorced and is desperate to sell.  Plus is has already been to Auction and failed.
Luck or Fate. Sooshie, what do you think!!!!!
Now have both feet in the door with the Agent. He won’t sell to anyone else I have 2 days to check out some important info. Have had meeting after meeting yesterday with Agent, Local Council, Architect, Bank Manager (not for finance approval – just to tell him what I am doing – will worry about this when it is time to settle) & Solicitor. Have to collect some more info from Local Council today and then met with Architect. If all is okay the offer will go in tomorrow. Agent has assured me that it is mine for the taking. 
I’ll keep you posted.
NessieSooshieMember@sooshieJoin Date: 2002Post Count: 974
Hi Everyone 
I’ve had some sleep!!! [8D]
Firstly, If I made some posts that didn’t make sense last night… uumm well, just say that you should be glad I was posting rather than driving !
Rouvelee, thank you and I’m sure we will get another chance to meet and say ‘Hello’. 
Hi Alex, I’m glad I finally met the other sushi03 . I’m hoping you might all meet ‘sooshiesbruzza’ very shortly.
I will ask you about fate or luck in my next post, but I want to go and cuddle my son (who’s currently letting his little push’n’go Thomas run under my hands as I type this)
Be back shortly…
“Giving is a Blessing, receiving is the bonus”jempireParticipant@jempireJoin Date: 2001Post Count: 19
I would like some feed back on your role you played in the game.
PS Im the guy you were really tuff on in the game and you told me afterwards why.JaeMember@jaeJoin Date: 2002Post Count: 3
Just in regards to the post by Lizzie and the “game” at the weekend seminar, I felt the same as her, which ended the weekend on a bit of a downer instead of a motivated high. I understand that the people who actually had a role would have found it fun they knew what their role was. There seemed to be many of us walking around in circles and some tables who had given up in the first half an hour. Can I make a suggestion for the next seminar, I think it would have been great to hear from people who had attended last years seminar and how they were moving ahead and gotten started.
Don’t get me wrong, I did have a great time anyway and gathered heaps of information. Thanks to everyone involved.The DIY Dog WashMember@the-diy-dog-washJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 696
I too found the game a little disappointing, but I factored into the game that the people on my table do things differently to me, so no planning could be done, that I was trying to get the others on my table to do the work so as to avoid it my self because of fear.
Fear I might look stupid. But when I did get into it I really felt empowered. I thought that having 4 vendors might have improved the game so some deals could actually be done. But that is supply and demand I guess.
I didn’t actually get any deals done because I wasted my time instructing others what to do, that when I finally got a chance to negotiate with Dave I ran out of time, but those few minutes really have made a difference. I am still nervous but I have been on the phone to agents trying to conquer that fear.
Look at the game and think of the positives that came out of it like, did you successfully match any of the tenants with a strategy that suited their situation. EG Sooshi was a lease-option and Brendan was a renter etc. I know I felt like I got it, at least a little bit.
Keep your chin up that way you can see where you are going … I just made that up and think it is really funny.
Read, learn, grow but most of all just do it.JaeMember@jaeJoin Date: 2002Post Count: 3
Thanks Leigh for your post. I just don’t get it, was it about fear? It just seemed frustrating to me.
Anyway don’t worry, I’m over it. It’s just a game after all, not real life, which I’m perfectly fine at and don’t mind looking like an idiot at all.jassepMember@jassepJoin Date: 1969Post Count: 40Steve McKnightKeymaster@stevemcknightJoin Date: 2001Post Count: 1,750
Thanks for all your positive feedback.
I’m about to make a new post titled… “What the game was all about”. See: https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1565
Hopefully this will clear up any confusion.
Remember that success comes from doing things differently.
Steve McKnight | PropertyInvesting.com Pty Ltd | CEO
Success comes from doing things differentlytraceyimbParticipant@traceyimbJoin Date: 2003Post Count: 82
I would like to say hello to everyone I met over the weekend. I had some great conversations and met some fantastic people. Thanks to Steve and the gang for a professional and organised seminar. I really appreciated this and also appreciated the friendly atmosphere. It has given me a new passion for investing in property and I have passed this on to my husband too. We are now looking for our next property.
Tracey Imbuldeniya – Finance Consultant
Ph: 0401 674464
Email:[email protected]Dianne2Member@dianne2Join Date: 2003Post Count: 19
My husband and I had a fabulous time at the weekend – we did the seminar last year in Sydney and wanted to review. I can recommend reviewing it as you get so much more info and understanding the second time around.
A huge thanks to all the guys involved in putting the weekend on, your commitment to helping all of us is awesome.
Just to reply to Jae who says the game is just a game and others who think that real life is going to be different: the way you play experiential games is the way you behave in real life. So, if you sat back and watched, think about how you approach things in real life; if you went into fear around the chaos, how can you overcome this in real life; if you rushed into doing something for the sake of doing something without planning, how do you normally handle things in real life?
I kid you not guys – think long and hard about how you played the game, I bet that you will see parallels with how you play the game of life.
The greatest thing about experiential games like the one played on Sunday is that you get to experiment with your own behaviour in a SAFE environment and learn from mistakes.
DianneLizzie_2Member@lizzie_2Join Date: 2003Post Count: 20
Soooo glad to hear that I was not the only lost soul during “the game”. I too have a suggestion like Jae. Perhaps a dialogue/role play between people who knew what they were doing, (ie Steve & Dave) could have been more beneficial.
I did manage to match the correct tenants to the right strategy but didn’t get much further than that.
LizzieMiniMogulParticipant@minimogulJoin Date: 2002Post Count: 1,414
Hi Steve, did you consider selling the tapes of the seminar with the notes as a stand-alone substitute for not having been able to make it, to offer people that missed out on the ‘live’ event?
I reckon you might have some takers i.e Jars’s post
MiniMiniMogulParticipant@minimogulJoin Date: 2002Post Count: 1,414
“some tables who had given up in the first half an hour. “
REALLY!!! No way! i didn’t know that! (i probably was too busy playing!)
“the way you play experiential games is the way you behave in real life. So, if you sat back and watched, think about how you approach things in real life; if you went into fear around the chaos, how can you overcome this in real life; if you rushed into doing something for the sake of doing something without planning, how do you normally handle things in real life?
I kid you not guys – think long and hard about how you played the game, I bet that you will see parallels with how you play the game of life.”
I LOVE and adore this quote and yes, i totally agree.
If people are giving up after half an hour, thinking “too hard/too frustrating/too scared/poor me” etc etc and that was just while playing a *game* in a *seminar* (i.e. a safe learning environment) then imagine how much they’re going to be ###ing their pants when they play the game of monopoly/life with real money?
I used to think that Kiyosaki was a little overly American psychobabble when talking about how his ‘cashflow’ board game reflected how you were in real life – that was while the only investing I was doing was *playing* cashflow.
Now that I have started *investing* for real, I have realised that it is *totally* true – but you don’t realise it while you’re stuck – when you have excuses i.e. it’s everyone else’s fault/the environment/the market/your luck – but not your own!
I think that until you start taking action in real life it can be hard to see that the game is just a reflection of your reality!
That, finally, (if i sound excited, it’s because I am!)
was my AHA of the weekend – which extends to all parts of life, really – which is, that the game of investing/property is just a game, but using real money, and it’s as much fun as you make it, and what you get out of it is up to you and your actions and decisions, not the market!
The market in that room – in the game- was the same for everyone. How come some loved it and others felt frustrated?
How come I love and adore the industry I’m in and the players who shape it, but others are deeply disillusioned, burned, and feel it’s dog eat dog out there? How come I live in a wonderful world filled with amazing incredible people, lots of love, fun, and endless possibilities, surrounded by talent, but others feel stuck, ripped off, angry, and like they have no choices and even if they did there’s no point in anything anyway cause you just get sick and die from all the pollution/war/angst/blah blah hard luck stories?
How come two men look out the window, and one sees mud, and one sees stars?
This might be a bit deep for here and now, but to take it back to property investing, I truly believe that you need to believe the world is full of deals before you can go and find any. Cause if you don’t believe there are any deals, you won’t find any, right?
If you think that everyone else has already got all the good deals and there are none left for me, then that’s exactly what you’ll find.
Some other more practical/shallower things I learned from the game (which parallels what i am learning in real life) are
1. Experience is really valuable. having been to the seminar before, I knew there would be queues for buying houses (Tasmania, anybody?) and that not dilly-dallying around would be a good idea.
2. Delgation of your team is important re: leveraging time and skills for maximum achievement.
3. Keep up or be left behind!
4. Disorganisation can cost you time/ the game
5. Even if you think you are doing terribly you might be doing great!!
(we didn’t hand in our card, because we had only completed two deals and thought that we were hopeless. But our deals were possibly just as good !)
that’s all for now
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