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  • Profile photo of AdministratorAdministrator
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    These are all quotes from steve

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    While this book outlines how you can achieve extra-ordinary wealth building results, it’s certainly not a book about how to get rich quick.


    Its interesting that one of your books is called “fast track” now thats what i call a get rich quick scheme.

    And another

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    The concept for my next book is to work closely with a maximum of ten investors as I transform them into outstanding property investing success stories; ideally they’ll come out a year later as property millionaires.


    I think this is starting to sound like a get rich quick scheme

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    “No-hype, no-bull”… that’s my approach to investing and running seminars.
    The investment required is $2,195 per person (GST inclusive). If you sit back and think about what you are receiving… over 20 hours of education, access to experts and professionals


    Thats $109.75 per/ person p/h * 40, So for an hours work he will be earning $4390 for every hour he is at the seminar thats $82000 for two days work, not bad if you can get.

    And finnally I went out of the window and this message came up, now if thats not a sales pitch then i will eat my hat.

    Your Shopping Cart is empty!
    Your Shopping Cart lives to serve. Give it purpose… fill it with stuff! (You can always take things out later.)

    Steve if you have confidence in your product Then please tell the forum how you justify, the $2195 you charge for your speech, If you dont answer i will assume you are unable to justify the amount.

    Thanks in advance

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    Hey Paul,
    Mate your views have been put over clearly enough in many posts under many names. I love reading posts that challenge the way I think but I’m not a big one for slander. If you want to challenge the property investing model …. go ahead. IF you want to write posts like this then I’m sure people would rather not here from you. Please continue your investing journey with my best wishes.

    Enjoy
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    Profile photo of Steve McKnightSteve McKnight
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    Hi,

    Late last year a friend of mine, unfortunately, had a miscarriage and needed to see an obstetrician to make sure that everything was ok.

    She was only with the obstetrician for about ten minutes, who did an examination – found that nature seemed to be running its course, but ordered blood tests just to be sure.

    When my friend went up to pay the fee was $130.

    Was this too much, well, there’s two ways to look at it…

    1. This guy drives a nice car and lives a good lifestyle… so maybe it is too much.

    2. This guy has been to school most of his life, does a specialised job, is needed in an emergency, is on call 24 hours a day and is constant threat of being sued. $130 sounds like a bargain!

    The lesson in this is the perceived value depends on:

    A. How badly you feel you need the service; and

    B. The level of expertise you feel like you are paying for.

    If you feel that $2,195 is too much then that is your opinion. To me though, if I paid $2,195 and then recouped this 100 times over in the course of my property investing then it would be a bargain.

    On the other hand, I wouldn’t pay $2,195 to go to a share seminar because my focus is property.

    So, the real question is this…

    If you plan to do nothing then I agree with you that $2,195 seems expensive.

    But if what you learn at the seminar allows you to go on and own $2m+ in investment property, then $2,195 represents just 0.11% of this total, which makes it a bargain.

    When it’s all said and done though, the only way to determine whether you receive value for money is to complete the seminar, as until then, all you can do is speculate.

    Bye,

    Steve McKnight

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    IS $2195 TOO MUCH?
    This depends on what each individual gets out of it. I have only ever attended one seminar – $800 for a weekend (Peter Spann’s Freeman Fox seminar) and personally thought I was mad, but was pacified by the 100% money back guarantee – however this had to be accepted by noon on the 1st day – so I persevered, and found that just 1 bit of info was worth every cent. After that I didn’t care whether I got nothing else from the seminar. This 1 piece of info has enabled me to do more deals than I could have imagined, and yes that info was freely available – but I didn’t know to ask the question.
    Not only do these seminars give you info that you haven’t sourced for yourself, but the best thing is the encouragement and camaraderie you get.
    Of course they are all trying to sell something – why is their info any less worthy than say a solicitor or doctor?
    If these seminars help you to start towards financial independence, then the judgement of value is up to you.
    Personally, I gained so much new info from this 1 seminar, it was absolutely worth it…and you can only judge other seminars by attending them.
    What is your background Paul? Are you a financial adviser?

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    Paul

    I did last years seminar. For $2195 you can take a friend and also it is a tax deduction.

    If $1100 is written off in tax then really the seminar only costs $550 per person.

    The next deal that I did after the seminar using what I learnt in the seminar I got 14% yield on a property and its not a wrap. The net cash flow $5500 per year. Thats over a 200% cash on cash return for the seminar.

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    So steve will you offer a money back guarentee, if like you said some one doesnt make 2 million in property like you said as you said will you give them there money back?

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    Paul, Steve can’t make you get out of bed in the morning. He only gives people the tools to take action. If you act on his information or not it is up to you. It is obvious you haven’t otherwise you wouldn’t be in here mouthing off.
    [:D]

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    hey paul,
    having read each of your posts, it is very evident you do not agree/ align with any of the sentiments or strategies posted by the majority of members here, therefore it begs the question “why are you here??” you seem to “know” a fair bit aboout steve and his strategies, how about revealing a little about your self that may go some way towards qualifying your self and your investment strategies.
    we are all keen learners and look forard to your input.
    rie

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    Paul I have just logged n for the first time in some days and see that you have een having a deal of influence on the forum. I have hung out with wise people, leaders and “do-ers” and have given my share of criticism. One day one of them said that the only difference between me and he was that he had the courage to sit in the chair at the front of the room. Since then I have been feeling my fear and looking at what I might need to do to sit out the front. If you feel that you shoul be sitting out there then some worthwhile information or suggestions would be helpful. I am willing to listen to anything that will give me more knowlledge and a more fearless attitude.I have liked what i have heard from Steve sice encountering him some time back and am coming (from Perth) to Melbourne to do the Masters seminar and if I dont learn something I know it will be my attitude and not Steves that will be at fault.So help me out in a positive way rather than take up space being negative. This is the best forum I have contributed to.
    Cheers all

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    Hi everyone,
    Seems to me that some people invest more effort into proving something wrong, than embracing the concept and making it work for them.
    Sounds like self-induced failure before you even begin!
    A.

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    $2,195.00 is not enough,charge paul more
    Paul you are petty,please show me a better return on your money(2195.00) and i will put it up.I have been to 4 different types of seminars from personel development,shares and property and have paid in excess of $16,000 and i have got this money back on returns and knowledge 10 times over.I still look out for the best seminars that would further enhance my wealth strategies.I would love to attend steve’s seminar but i am based in sydney and involved in a few projects here or else i would have no objection in attending.Paul you are obviously very frustrated with your self and lack confidence therefore you will not get anything out of this seminar.Negative people attract negative life styles.So when your attitude changes for the better please advise or i can give you a name of a personel development program that may do you some good.Everything about investing in property is out there its gaining the knowledge to access it.So paul go and speak to your professionals and see what figure you come up with.

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    FREEDOM i dont think you should be commenting on the value of steves forums, as you havent been.

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    Hi there,

    I don’t exercise my right as moderator very often, but this is starting to get a little out of hand, so I ask that we be polite when responding to posts, otherwise I may just have to do some editting. Paul, you need to decide whether the money is worth it or not, but you’ve missed the boat anyway, Steve’s seminar is a sellout (mind you it sold out 2-3 months prior to the actual event!!!) That should tell you something. Paul out of interest, how many investing seminars have you been to ? In total how much do you think you have paid? What have you done with the information and are you richer for it?

    Please be nice to each other [^]

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    Hi
    I went to a number of training sessions put on by a company that I worked for. There were two people there that were very negative and found every excuse not to go to anymore sessions. I had the cahnce to talk to thr trainer a few times. One time he told us about a seminar he was holding and there were 2 men that were quite wealthy there. He asked them why they were there?That if you think that you know everything then you will fail in business and life. These 2 men pay to go to seminars. These men are very wealthy men. This tells me that no matter the costs you should go to seminars if they are about what you are interested in.

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    soshie i have never been to a seminar, because i have my own theories, i beleive if i act like a sheep, the most i will be come is apart of the flock, as steve says do things differently, anyway i dont want to talk to you as you have no idea, go do the dishes, i put it to you that you are a dictator. Free speech is not allowed in this forum and you control that.

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    Paul277,

    quote:


    Free speech is not allowed in this forum…


    Please. I have gone to great lengths to try and outline that any post that contains:

    quote:


    …or transmits any unlawful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, pornographic, profane or otherwise offensive information or material of any kind, including, without limitation any information or material that might reasonably encourage conduct that would breach any civil or criminal law of Victoria or other applicable place;


    will be deleted or edited. Many of your posts contain defamatory and offensive information and as such need to be modified or deleted.

    For example, when you say:

    quote:


    go do the dishes


    This is sexist nonsense that has no place on the forum. If you are unaware of how your comments might be taken then seek advice before posting.

    This is not a personal issue against you. It’s like saying that if you want to use the road then you have to adhere to the road rules, or, if you break them and get caught, suffer the appropriate penalty.

    I’m not sure how else to say this. I was hoping that given the improvement in the quality of your posts recently you might have had a change of heart towards this facility.

    Regards,

    Steve McKnight
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