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  • Profile photo of OceanArchitecturalOceanArchitectural
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    I have been keeping a rather close eye on the Japanese nuclear crisis, and am certain that it will inevitably result in the exodus of many millions of Japanese citizens (if you arent up to date with it all, let me know and Ill post a few links. in short, think Chernobyl and multiply it by a factor of 8 conservatively)

    Radiation is affecting the US west coast already, and is expected to affect the entirety of the Northern Hemisphere. It is not, however, expected to affect the Southern Hemisphere, because North/South hemisphere air flow does not mix.

    It is logical to assume that many japanese will seek relocation in theSouthern Hemisphere (from memory Argentina is the biggest japanese population centre outside Japan) and I think that it would very much be in Australias interest to entice them here. They are an intelligent, industrious, polite people, who would be a boon to the nation.

    In terms of economy, an influx of educated people already proficient in hard sciences/engineering/manufacturing has the potential to restore Australias industrial capacity, generating massive job, export, and GDP growth, for the betterment of all involved.

    In terms of the property market, well, not to profit off the misery of others (I think whats happening is terrible, but that doesnt mean we cant make some smart moves), but not only will demand for property across the entire spectrum rise, but also, demand in peripheral areas suitable for manufacture.

    Id like to hear everyones thoughts on this. And please, keep the xenophobia to a minimum

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    I live in Osaka, Japan, and it is things as normal here.  In Eastern Japan there are problems, but only in a small area.

    There is some radiation being found in the areas immediately surrounding the nuclear power plants and some food stuff has been contaminated such as green leafy vegetables from farms in the area.

    I can't see mass evacuations happening any time soon. Even if it does happen Japan is a big place and people will probably just go to other parts of Japan.

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    Terryw wrote:
    I live in Osaka, Japan, and it is things as normal here.  In Eastern Japan there are problems, but only in a small area.

    There is some radiation being found in the areas immediately surrounding the nuclear power plants and some food stuff has been contaminated such as green leafy vegetables from farms in the area.

    I can't see mass evacuations happening any time soon. Even if it does happen Japan is a big place and people will probably just go to other parts of Japan.

    I have bad news for you. I consider myself to be an intelligent person. usually too intelligent for my own good, but regardless, I would strongly advise you to take a few minutes to read and watch the following.

    http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/22/chernobyl-cleanup-survivors-message-for-japan-run-away-as-qui/ – advice from a Chernobyl engineer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKocJpta0TA – complete breakdown by respected physicists of the accident that you will not hear in the news
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant_Exclusion_Zone NOTE: chernobyl had 180 tonnes of fuel. Fukushima has in excess of 600 tonnes in just one nuclear pool. There are 6 pools. If exclusion from chernobyl based on 180 tonnes of fuel is 30km, it is likely that exclusion based on ten times that will be far more widespread. Tokyo is 120 km away. By the way, 30km is only the first, most dangerous exclusion zone – various other zones circumscribe it.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20908 – one million deaths currently attributable to Chernobyl

    So, factor in that you have 12 times more nuclear fuel than Chernobyl. So far, youve only received radiation from one reactor. 5 to go. From that one reactor, youre at double Chernobyl already. That reactor is currently melting through the ground and will hit groundwater soon, whereby radiation will spread through the water table and irradiate japanese farms for miles, for the next few centuries.
    One of the reactor cores (not pools) is operating presently at 500 degrees celcius. usual operating temp at full reaction is 400 degrees. The other one is presently at 1000 degrees celcius.

    Radioactive iodine has been found in Tokyo drinking water in levels unsafe for adults (let alone children/infants).
    Cesium has been found sprinkled all over the country.
    Radiation has been detected as far as the US west coast in a dozen counties.
    Radioactive particles have settled in the Pacific, and will therefore irradiate fish stocks, either killing the fish, or those who eat them, yet certainly the Japanese fishing industry.

    I am truly sorry, but your country is in dire straits. You are not being told this on the news because the government does not want to panic the people (as well as a few other reasons, mainly legal) but you are in serious trouble. We saw this at Chernobyl – a gross underestimation of severity that left the public at massive risk (many thousands died). We saw this at 3 mile Island in 79. Same thing.

    Time will tell, but logic will prevail. If we arent making money in property at the moment, we will certainly do so in chemotherapy companies, and the funeral business.

    Think for yourself, Look after your family, and good luck. You shall most certainly need it.

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    Thanks for your concern.

    Things are extremely bad, i agree. But I am not sure how bad it is yet, or how bad it is going to get. Electricity has been reconnected to all the reactors, but there is still a heap of work to do with them.

    I think it will be months before they will be under control.

    The Internation Atomic Energy Agency is saying that there is no significant risk to human health
    http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html

    But I guess they have a vested interest in promoting nuclear energy.

    Osaka, where I am, is about 500km west from Fukushima, so it is fairly safe for now, I think.

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    Most of the worlds media is owned by the same people who own general electric – the company that designed the faulty reactor. the design was so bad that several of their employees quit in protest 40 years ago. 3 days ago things were bad. Yesterday the temperature of the reactor cores started to go up significantly, indicating full scale meltdown. As I said, one reactor down, 5 to go. Plus the spent fuel pools.

    Personally I soundnt stuff around – you dont get second chances from plutonium. Whats the point in being a super rich property investor if you get a lump in your neck in 2 years and die the year after that.

    I hope it is as you say, but I have a bachelors degree in pharmacy and have seen first hand, on the front lines how industry and government really work when it comes to human health. So long s the big boys cant be sued, everything is okay.

    Good luck

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    I prefer to take advice from the experts rather than some guy in a t-shirt crying on youtube. I therefore haven't listened to what he has to say.

    At this stage I don't see any need to evacuate Tokyo, let alone the whole country.

    Things are very normal here where I am in Kansai.

    I think there is a greater chance of mass exodus from Libya at the moment.

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