Sorry andymitchell but I have to ask this-
After all the wonderful suggestions everyone has provided.
The question that needs to be asked is what have you done.
Not what are you going to do but what have you done?Sorry andymitchell most people are gonna do something’s.
Get into it or as NIKE says “JUST DO IT”.If a problem is not solved it grows and the bigger the problem the harder it is for you to tackle.
Procrastination is putting something off until later, which just allows fear to build up.Sorry andymitchell that I have to say this but after returning from holidays I kinda expected to read an update on your situation.
As with most people it looks like nothing has changed.
Set yourself apart and do something now.Sorry andymitchell I think you need a kick in the pants to keep moving.
Fight back tell me what you have done.Your friend Colin,
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So, don’t procrastinate, DO IT NOW! Richard DennyYour friend Colin,
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For all your CLEANING and GARDENING work.Hi Colin – thanks for the kick up the pants…I’ve been taking on board a lot of peoples advice, I have a meeting with my accountant on Thursday to discuss the impact on our cashflow if we rented the unit for 12 months. Our plan is to try to keep the unit, and reassess after a year. I feel the market is about to make a solid movement, one way or the other.
Spoken to a few more agents, and the message is generally the same, big loss, and the general consesnus is to keep hold and ride the slump.
I am currently negotiating a better deal with my bank for the mortgage, will let you know how that goes.
I have been looking down a lot of avenues, it just takes a bit of time to do, collate all the outcomes and make a decision.
I read with interest a post similar to ours, though this person had another property which would make a good CG and offset his loss.
Dear Andy, if you do rent out your unit, do take up the generous offer of help with the depreciation schedule. It can obliterate your tax bill. I know because I learned the hard way – I paid $800+ for a quick depreciation schedule & boy was I happy with the tax refunds! I missed out on more $10K worth of refunds but I’m still happy.
Good luck & please don’t be put off. I was in the same situation with my 1st house (mum offered to sell her jewellery) and I put my head in my arms & wept!!!
Today I own more than 10 investment properties & my retirement income comes from them.
Kum Yin
Hi Andy
After reading many…many replies to this both unfortunate (negative equity…on paper) and uplifting (new baby etc) I thought I’d add my two bobs worth.
First off I agree wholeheartedly with one respondent who mentioned that you did buy the property for a reason @ $500k+. Think back to why you bought…does that still apply? Are you still happy with the place? Also, unless you sell (or are foreclosed) your loss is only a paper one and most replies I read advocate keeping the property because, if you sell, you will still have to pay back the difference to the bank (approx 50-70k) or declare bankruptcy. And bankruptcy is not a pleasant option.
Consequently I’ve seen multiple replies with the view of lowering your expenses to avoid this happening. I’ve seen others with extra income suggestions to raise your ability to firstly cover your debt load and while making your family (god bless your soon to be new arrival) as comfortable as is possible.
I believe you need to do both.
On the expenses side take on board ALL of the suggestions to lower your monthly costs. Think about what is really important and budget budget budget. If, after doing that, you find your personal income / expenditure balance sheet says your income will barely cover the interest on your home (which I suspect is probably the case) then you will need to suppliment your income or your wife will have to do some sort of work so you can put food on the table… even if she is pregnant. Sorry.
Further on the income side you mentioned renting out your unit and then renting out somewhere else. This would be an excellent thing to do ONLY if your rental cost (where you will be living) is less than what you will recieve in rent of your unit. That should add money to your income side of your personal balance sheet and also allow the biggest of your unit expenses – loan interest to be tax deductible (I’m 99% certain…ask your accountant). If the unit is new(ish)…then the depreciation schedule can help immensely in getting back income tax without having to actually fork out any cash…again accountant.
Your situation is not unique. I remember interest going from under 10% to over 17% on the first property my wife and I owned and it nearly killed us paying the interest bill. And we had new ones coming along similar to your situation. You will just have to bite the bullet and work, scrimp and save just as I’m sure most of us have had to do at some time in our lives. But there’s one thing you must never do :- Give up!
Thanks
Ben
why don’t you sign the property over to your unborn child and let them deal with the problem. they can hardly issue you with a notice of eviction can they. then declare the kid bankrupt. then it’s 5 years til they’re allowed to own property again. hopefully that time your apartment might be worth what you paid for it.
sjstocks
andymitchell Posted – 28/03/2006 : 09:38:02
Hi Colin – thanks for the kick up the pants…I’ve been taking on board a lot of peoples advice, I have a meeting with my accountant on Thursday to discuss the impact on our cashflow if we rented the unit for 12 months. Our plan is to try to keep the unit, and reassess after a year. I feel the market is about to make a solid movement, one way or the other.Spoken to a few more agents, and the message is generally the same, big loss, and the general consesnus is to keep hold and ride the slump.
I am currently negotiating a better deal with my bank for the mortgage, will let you know how that goes.
I have been looking down a lot of avenues, it just takes a bit of time to do, collate all the outcomes and make a decision.
I read with interest a post similar to ours, though this person had another property which would make a good CG and offset his loss.
Thanks andymitchell figured you were made of sterner stuff.
Glad to see that you have taken action for with this I know solutions will follow.On a slight tangent here I found a great investment opportunity while away on holidays about a month ago (yes I was on holidays).
The catch expensive and my businesses are growing as fast as cash becomes available.
Now I realize to invest into property I need to slow or even stop reinvestment back into my businesses but when the returns are compared business is given the priority.However in this case I decided to find a way and so I went looking for an answer to my problem and well lets just say I became quickly involved in another adventure.
“Adventure” = advertising venture or a marketing opportunity.
In this case 3 friends said they would go guarantor for the loan and then they would make the monthly loan payments provided that I lent some of my time and ideas back into marketing their businesses.On the surface this looked fantastic as I get exactly what I wanted and all I had to do was some thinking and some time each month however the reality is that I would end up being locked in tighter than any bank lender could ever do.
However it did give me a glimpse into other business opportunities that were in front of myself all along but didn’t notice.For the last month I have been working to set up a promotional marketing business.
Yes its yet another business but rather than my friends businesses locking in my services why don’t I offer them their second years service if they pay for the first year in advance.
I expected some resistance but ended up with 4 referrals one of which demonstrated the use of the power of a granted loan.Many of us have read how Donald Trump went back to his creditors and said put in more money so I can make it work or we all take a loss.
Now this power is impressive but not for the super rich as I had previously thought.You see this little business has a government client who pays quarterly.
Ok you can adjust your business operations around the payment structure easily enough.
But often business growth waits until there is cash flow.
But what about a business that is faced with an opportunity but can’t take it.In this case they went back to their lenders and asked for the last 6 months loan payments back and for the existing loans to be adjusted.
This request was made at the accountants office so all figures could be made available upon request.
Naturally someone asked why they needed the money.
At this point their creditors were sold on the opportunity before them.
Not all agreed and those that realised the potential picked up the slack and or refinanced out the unwilling lending parties.I am impressed as I witnessed a business with less than 1/4 million in turnover ask and receive a loan for $1.3 Million with out a deposit and their lenders also payed back about $30,000 in cash so their office could be geared to handle the extra work load.
Sorry andymitchell about getting of track but I thought it might help to point out that thinking outside the square can open doors.
In my case I have a fresh business to work with when the old business was starting to feel stale.
Don’t get me wrong it’s a great business but the challenge is worth more for life.andymitchell please keep us informed as things progress.
The next time someone thinks they have hit a brick wall they can be directed back here and see the results.[offtopic][upsidedown][thumbsup2]Your friend Colin,
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For all your CLEANING and GARDENING work.
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