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  • Profile photo of sharon2sharon2
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    Ok guys this is my first time, i’m a little nervous. I’ve read Steve’s book but what now? Would you property investors please advise me on what to do next, other good reading material or programs where i can gain the knowledge to get started or even networking groups i can become a member of.I currently run my own business but realize it’s just a bigger jail than being an employee, I think positive cashflow property is a great way to invest for the future. Let me know your thoughts and how you started, much appreciated. Sharon

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    Hi Sharon and welcome
    You are too right about business being a bigger jail than being an employee. Doing either does to some extent mean you are diversifying and not totally relying on +ve CF IP which is what most on this forum do.

    I would suggest you start your search for a +ve CF IP as a starting point. You can do this like so many others by using realestate.com.au or get out there and do some leg work (probably better).
    Get a few RE agents to do some of the running around for you as well.
    Cheers and good luck

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    Hi Sharon,

    You’re heading in the right direction by asking questions and looking for good resource books. There is a great thread at https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5667 where various folks have listed and rated books that they have read/studied. Like the rest of us, it’s a process so be patient with yourself, put the effort in and it WILL happen for you.

    All the best,

    David [:)][:D][^]

    PS Have you tried turning your business into a “system” so that you can delegate it to others more and free up some of your time?

    OPM – use Other People’s Money and learn from Other People’s Mistakes
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    Sharon,

    I’m fairly new myself, but welcome aboard, this is a great place to learn about all sorts of investments and people on here are extremley helpful and knowledgeable so no need to be nervous. I don’t have any property myself so can’t comment on how I started because I haven’t yet! The best suggestion from me is to read as many posts as you can. For instance there was a great thread recently on books that people have read and rated.

    However, I was more intereted to note that you said owning your own business is a bigger jail than being an employee. I thought owning your own business was a great way towards financial freedom??? As someone who is keen to start their own business I’d be interested to know why you feel this way…

    Cheers,

    Chris.

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    Housesonly, thanks for the tip about realestate.com,I’ve already jumped on for a look.I’ll keep you posted on my progress. Glad I broke the ice and asked for your advice. Thanks Sharon
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    Well I must say I’m just starting with this property thing. I would probably say that now might not be the best time to invest in property as good deals are hard to find.

    Personally I’m waiting a bit and trying to save a bit more. However now is the best time to learn about property as there are plenty of people out there who are interested in this.

    Chris, a small business can be a jail depending on what type of business you run. Most involve a lot of work and review/maintenance even if you don’t work there. If you do work there it is a lot of work. However some small business can be a more set and forget (relatively) if you can get staff to run it well for you but it does cut down on profits.

    Josh

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    Hi Sharon
    Further to comsols point about business “systems”,a book by M Gerber, The E Myth, is relevent to this subject.I don`t run a business, but have read this book,very enlightening.My wife and I started by diligently paying off our first home as soon as possible and using equity to buy our first {cheap} rental.5 years {and 3 kids!!} later we have just purchased our fifth IP. They are all +, but admittedly it is easier to find them here {regional Sth. Aust.}than the east coast.
    But back to your original point about where to start.If you are buying your own home, pay it off asap. If you don`t, start saving a deposit!!
    Equity and capital growth – `tis a wonderous thing!

    regards

    Terry

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    comsol nailed it when he talked about successful businesses needing good ‘systems’. A system is a form of leverage.

    “owning your own business is a bigger jail than being an employee.”

    Robert Kiyosaki says that many people who think they own a business (self-employed) don’t – they own a job. I can relate to that – I have a business, but I get clients because of my skill. I can’t really attract customers and fob them off on someone else, because I work one to one and they want me.

    Now Boost Juice, for example, now there’s a business. the inventors of the concept don’t squeeze juices, they set up a replicable system which they franchised, so that other people squeeze juices, and they get paid while whistling a happy tune.

    and re: “good deals are hard to find”
    I’ve debated this point about a thousand times.
    I found about a zillion good deals just last week. And no, they’re not near my house in Paddington, Sydney.
    they varied in price range and opportunity, or strategy needed to unlock the $$$ – but for example – buy and holds: 36K rented $120. 20K rents for $100. development: $100K demolition dump, 300m from ocean, beach resort, 800squ m freehold, two street fronts, remove house, subdivide, relocate or build two baches, sell both properties for (agent’s estimate) $170K each.

    bit of both, CF+ neutral plus capital gain -70K rents for $140 but in booming capital gain city.

    Absolute beachfront for $130 k in beach suburb of aforementioned booming capital gain city. etc etc etc etc etc etc
    zillions of em

    ah, i forgot the riverfront do-up for 50K, or else buy and hold at CFneutral (rents 120 per week) and do up later

    If you look for deals on the net and isolate a price-range where the yields are looking good, follow it up by a few days visiting, looking, networking, and scouting in person, walk streets, talk to tenants, other investors, go to hardware stores, anything! – take real estate agents out to lunch, dinner, talk talk talk, they will throw deals at you forever more. truly!!

    cheers-
    mini

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