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  • Profile photo of Mad-CatMad-Cat
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    I’m not shore where to post this so i’ll post it hear.

    Westan i know we have all hear of him. and personal i have hear nothing but great things about him but before i take the plunge i was wanting to know if anyone has had any good or bad personal experances with him. Just trying to do my due dinigince.

    Regards

    P.S
    no offence westan just trying to get some references

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    Hi Mad-Cat,

    I have known Westan for around a year now. I went over to NZ earlier this and spent a whole day with him inspecting properties. He truely is an ethical guy and you can be sure his knowledge and experience is superior! He has always been helpful when I’ve had questions and really knows his stuff. His honesty and openness will put you at ease, I’m sure.

    Just have a read though his posts over the years, you should be able to determine his worthiness from his contribution. He has been around for a long time and I’m sure many will agree with what I have said.

    Regards,
    Ozi

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    I back that up, I have also known Westan for a long time. I have met his wife and kids in NZ and he is a very genuine and honest person. He is also very astute in business but very ethical as ozi said.

    Mad-Cat, I don’t think you could go wrong with him (or his brother Alvin).

    We buy properties in Adelaide. Immediate Cash Settlements, No Real Estate Agents, No Fees.
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    also, you should do thorough due diligence on anything you buy from westan or anybody else. Not because he is untrustworthy (he is), but because he may have overlooked something or because that particular investment may be good for him but may not suit your goals etc

    check everything out!!!

    We buy properties in Adelaide. Immediate Cash Settlements, No Real Estate Agents, No Fees.
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    phone 0412 437 582

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    I think Dr X meant “he is” to mean he is trustworthy, not the reverse.

    You should not seek potential negative comments on a forum like this anyway, it is not appropriate and anyone posting bad stuff may be defaming their subject. A better way may be to ask folks who have bought what their expectations were, how things worked out, what their learning experiences were etc.

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    Quiggles,
    Whats wrong with asking about people on these forums? Especially people who overtly or subtly promote their services here?
    Defamation? I dont see how that is a problem. Please explain.

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    Originally posted by markdangerous:

    Quiggles,
    Whats wrong with asking about people on these forums? Especially people who overtly or subtly promote their services here?
    Defamation? I dont see how that is a problem. Please explain.

    It’s pretty simple. Suppose you were offering a service, let’s say selling computers and someone on a message board asked for people’s opinion of you. Suppose then that I bagged you out (whether or not justified).

    EVEN IF JUSTIFIED, it can still be defamatory, although not slanderous. You would be in a position of suffering loss of reputation, and of income and could sue both me and the operators of the board that published the defamation. This is in no-one’s interest.

    It also means that in answering the question, no-one with a negative view should be stupid enough to say so, thereby skewing the answers.

    Far better that people ask and talk in terms of what they expected and what happened. In terms of the US market, I’ve bought over there and not everything was positive – however, I KNOW that this was due to me. Someone else, having had expectations that may not have been clearly , may hold Westan to blame for things which simply aren’t in his purview or which aren’t part of the service he offers.

    What I’m saying is that there are better and more suitable questions to ask. My email above suggested some of these.

    Profile photo of markdangerousmarkdangerous
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    Originally posted by quiggles:

    Originally posted by markdangerous:

    Quiggles,
    Whats wrong with asking about people on these forums? Especially people who overtly or subtly promote their services here?
    Defamation? I dont see how that is a problem. Please explain.

    It’s pretty simple. Suppose you were offering a service, let’s say selling computers and someone on a message board asked for people’s opinion of you. Suppose then that I bagged you out (whether or not justified).

    EVEN IF JUSTIFIED, it can still be defamatory, although not slanderous. You would be in a position of suffering loss of reputation, and of income and could sue both me and the operators of the board that published the defamation. This is in no-one’s interest.

    It also means that in answering the question, no-one with a negative view should be stupid enough to say so, thereby skewing the answers.

    Far better that people ask and talk in terms of what they expected and what happened. In terms of the US market, I’ve bought over there and not everything was positive – however, I KNOW that this was due to me. Someone else, having had expectations that may not have been clearly , may hold Westan to blame for things which simply aren’t in his purview or which aren’t part of the service he offers.

    What I’m saying is that there are better and more suitable questions to ask. My email above suggested some of these.

    Quiggles i agree with you for the most part, especially about asking better questions, however i always thought that the truth is an absolute defense against charges of demanation. If someone responded with facts, i dont see a problem with that either ethically or legally. But what would i know.

    On another note: I’d be interested to hear about your “lessons learned” in your USA investment if you care to share it with the forum???

    Mark

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    Mark,
    Strange as it may sound – the truth is NOT a defence for defamation in Australia.
    Yes that means you can tell the truth and still defame someone.
    Defamation is all about reputation.
    Cheers
    Giddo

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    I suppose that’s much like Frank Sartor talking about Mick Mundine’s black a#$ and even though it IS black, it’s still open to racist interpretation.

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    Originally posted by markdangerous

    Quiggles i agree with you for the most part, especially about asking better questions, however i always thought that the truth is an absolute defense against charges of demanation. If someone responded with facts, i dont see a problem with that either ethically or legally. But what would i know.

    On another note: I’d be interested to hear about your “lessons learned” in your USA investment if you care to share it with the forum???

    Mark

    In response, as noted by giddo, truth is not a defence against defamation. it must not only be true but in the public interest or defaming someone who lacked a reputation to injure or something else. I’m not a lawyer. Truth is a defence against slander and libel, which is why politicians nearly always launch defamation suits to shut someone up.

    My adventures in the US were originally posted in the a different forum and crossposted to here. I’m not quite sure where, so I’ll post the original link http://www.somersoft.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18101.

    I’ve been in the US market for a year now and it is NOT straightforward. I’m flying back tonight to try and straighten some things out.

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