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				<title>TheYoungUnprofessionals replied to the topic Help understanding some key calculations please in the forum Help Needed!</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:24:27 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks once again for clarifying that &#8211; and for all your input on this thread!</p>
<p>Absolutely, I understand that serviceability is only one part of the overall assessment &#8211; but I&#039;m also glad I understand now how that works at least.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:35:13 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Yeah I downloaded an Excel calculator and kind of worked out that it seems to be a default living expense based on single/couple and number of dependents &#8211; cheers for confirming though.</p>
<p>Given they would assume our expenses are per couple then, do they also use my wife&#039;s income to assess affordability even if the title and mortgage is to&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-190943"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408144-help-understanding-some-key-calculations-please/#post-4681467" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 04:39:31 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for this &#8211; yeah now I&#039;ve got an understanding of how DSR is calculated thanks to you guys, I will try to work out NSR and use that instead.&nbsp; A quick google shows there are a few NSR calculators available to download &#8211; I will check them out.</p>
<p>Just as an aside though, when you mention DSR doesn&#039;t take into account marital status -&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-167994"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408144-help-understanding-some-key-calculations-please/#post-4681465" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:58:41 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for sticking with me and replying again!&nbsp; Between yours and Derek&#039;s responses, I&#039;ve got it now &#8211; as mentioned above, this is pretty much what I thought initially, I just didn&#039;t word it very well&#8230;&nbsp; I always assumed that lenders would use the LoC limit rather than the drawn-down amount when used in any calculations, I just wasn&#039;t&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-198994"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408144-help-understanding-some-key-calculations-please/#post-4681463" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TheYoungUnprofessionals replied to the topic Help understanding some key calculations please in the forum Hi Derek,</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:45:05 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Derek,</p>
<p>Many thanks for this very comprehensive explanation &#8211; I really appreciate it!</p>
<p>I understand now exactly what you mean.&nbsp; The way you&#039;ve described it here is pretty much what I thought was the case initially, I think I just worded my initial question badly then misunderstood your responses&#8230;&nbsp; This is excellent, thanks again for&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-196637"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408144-help-understanding-some-key-calculations-please/#post-4681462" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 06:54:41 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Sorry to labour the point here, but as a novice trying to work some stuff out I just can&#039;t get my head around what you and Derek have mentioned regarding the way LOC loans are regarded in terms of affordability calculations.&nbsp; I hope you can stick with me a little longer and help me out again please&#8230;!</p>
<p>It&#039;s likely I didn&#039;t word my&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-198991"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408144-help-understanding-some-key-calculations-please/#post-4681459" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 03:18:32 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for that.&nbsp; Dammit I thought that may be the answer re DSR &amp; offset, for the exact reason you mention &#8211; lenders would probably assume you&#039;re going to spend the lot on something else&#8230;</p>
<p>Hmmm ok, didn&#039;t know DSR was old school sorry &#8211; my starting point for this journey was a book my dad gave me recently, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s very old,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-198990"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408144-help-understanding-some-key-calculations-please/#post-4681458" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 02:45:50 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Derek,</p>
<p>Thanks for replying!</p>
<p>1 &#8211; No worries hopefully someone else can advise on the DSR question.</p>
<p>2 &#8211; Cool thanks, I thought that&#039;d be the case.</p>
<p>3 &#8211; Sorry by &#039;term&#039; I meant length of the loan rather than another name for it!!!&nbsp; As in, is there a standard length of time you take a LOC loan over, so I can work out what the minimum I/O&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-198988"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408144-help-understanding-some-key-calculations-please/#post-4681456" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TheYoungUnprofessionals replied to the topic Decision time before buying first IP in the forum And hopefully when I do get</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:27:45 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And hopefully when I do get round to talking to him at some point, he will recommend this.&nbsp; In the meantime though I was simply trying to build some knowledge so I could hold an intelligent discussion with him, and work out whether he is a &#039;good&#039; broker or not.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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				<title>TheYoungUnprofessionals replied to the topic Decision time before buying first IP in the forum Ah ok, wasn't sure if you</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:50:41 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah ok, wasn&#039;t sure if you meant my whole original post, or some later specific points&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes I&#039;m sure my financial professional will help, thanks.</p>
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				<title>TheYoungUnprofessionals replied to the topic Decision time before buying first IP in the forum Hi, sorry not sure what you</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:38:09 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, sorry not sure what you mean Richard &#8211; was this in reply to my original post or a later one&#8230;?</p>
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				<title>TheYoungUnprofessionals replied to the topic Decision time before buying first IP in the forum Cool thanks Derek, I've never</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:37:55 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool thanks Derek, I&#039;ve never heard of this &#8211; will check it out and see if it applies to us.</p>
<p>Thanks again, much appreciated!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:53:10 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will do Jamie, thanks again for your help.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:52:43 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Derek, I am indeed better armed thanks to you and this community &#8211; I look forward to discussing further with my advisor now!</p>
<p>Cheers again.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 05:05:19 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool thanks for that Jamie &#8211; sounds like a LOC is the way to go then&#8230;</p>
<p>I will give our broker a try first &#8211; he certainly seems to know his stuff from earlier discussions &#8211; and I feel I&#039;m well enough armed now with some ideas to run past him, and will be able to tell fairly quickly if he knows what he&#039;s doing or not.&nbsp; If not, I will check our&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132304"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408096-decision-time-before-buying-first-ip/#post-4680976" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:07:21 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops one other thing I thought of but forgot to ask in the last post&#8230;</p>
<p>Assume we&#039;re at a point where we do have some equity in our house and are going to use $50k to fund the deposit for an IP.&nbsp; You mentioned taking a line of credit loan &#8211; is there an advantage to doing that over simply redrawing the funds?</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:03:17 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I know, our LVR is currently far from ideal &#8211; but all planning will take this into account.&nbsp; Thankfully we have the big chunk of savings to work with, which will be a massive help in getting us started with a good structure and approach.</p>
<p>Our advisor is the director of Port Finance in Melbourne &#8211; a company that has a few different&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132301"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408096-decision-time-before-buying-first-ip/#post-4680973" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 03:33:11 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh ok I see, that makes a bit more sense now &#8211; the goal of doing the approach you mentioned is essentially to minimise the mortgage required for the new PPoR whilst maximising the tax advantage (or minimising the disadvantage I guess!)&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#039;re not dead set on having 3 x $400k properties, that&#039;s just a rough idea at the minute &#8211; perhaps the best&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132299"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408096-decision-time-before-buying-first-ip/#post-4680971" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:33:46 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Derek,</p>
<p>That does indeed help, thanks!</p>
<p>I wonder if you could help with explaining one last thing a little bit more though please&#8230;&nbsp; I still can&#039;t quite get my head around why it&#039;s better to keep as high a debt as possible on our current PPoR and convert it to IO immediately (thus restricting our ability to purchase say 3 x $400k IPs any time&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132298"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408096-decision-time-before-buying-first-ip/#post-4680969" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:59:23 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Derek,</p>
<p>Thank you for the very comprehensive reply &#8211; and sorry to all for my post being so long in the first place!</p>
<p>You make some very good points &#8211; can I please clarify though&#8230;</p>
<p>You suggest we should convert to IO straight away and run an offset account alongside it, but use a line of credit loan to fund any IP purchases (rather than&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132296"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408096-decision-time-before-buying-first-ip/#post-4680967" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:47:57 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jamie,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply.&nbsp; Points 1 &amp; 2 of your response are kind of mutually exclusive though, aren&#039;t they?&nbsp; This is part of what I&#039;m trying to understand as fully as possible &#8211; both are avenues I see benefit in, but which do I choose since I can&#039;t do both??</p>
<p>My current broker seemed very good when he first helped us with our current&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132295"><a href="https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/4408096-decision-time-before-buying-first-ip/#post-4680966" rel="nofollow">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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