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    1. Yes can generally claim all expenses not otherwised claimed – used to increase cost base.

    2. No

    3. get some advice

    4. see a different accountant.

    5. possibly

    Sounds like other people are asking you answers to tax questions and then you are asking others for the answer. Are you a lawyer or a tax agent? If not then I would suggest you not answer their questions because of the risks involved.

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    no you don’t

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    I haven’t read the link, but…

    I just did a loan for a person who earns 10 times more from rents than her salary. One lender wanted to do the deal as a commercial loan because of the number of properties she owned, but other lenders didn’t have a problem with it.

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    You can restructure but what are you trying to do? Increasing a loan wont necessarily mean more tax deductions.

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    I would be worried about 2 main things:

    1. Child porn/copyright infringment, and

    2. Internet not working – they will be complaining constantly.

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    Cross security is using 2 properties as security for one loan. This can be avoided completely in this situation and you could borrow 105% (ie full price and costs) without crossing and without incurring LMI.

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    Yes I think you should consider the ownership structure in more detail.

    Any property you buy will be cashflow positive very soon, if not immediately. This will then result in even more tax payable if you own it.

    Can’t see why someone in your situation would even consider paying LMI. Just a waste of money in this instance. with your option C there is no reason to cross securities in this situation either.

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    I guess you could look at it this way

    $400,000 purchase valued at $360,000 with a $30,000 commission

    or

    $400,000 purchase valued at $410,000 with a $10,000 fee

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    In Qld having numerous Trust will not get you around the Land Tax threshold as your hold in will be aggregated where the Trustees are related.

    Richard I disagree with this bit. Carefully structured each trust will get a separate threshold in QLD due to s20 Land Titles Act QLD.

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    My answers

    1. Yes
    2. Run, very fast, away from a club flogging properties – they are probably over priced.
    3. stay away from these.

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    The tax agent could provide tax advice in relation to teh development and structuring, income tax, CGT, GST, land tax, stampp duty etc.

    So could the lawyer, but the lawyer could also provide the legal advice such as ownership structure, how to structure companies, trusts, successsion issues, asset protection issues, related party loan agreements, terms of agreements, reviewing agreements.

    The mortgage broker could provide all advice related to credit such as which lender, type of loan, structuring submission etc

    Investment goals is a broad area and there would be no licencing required, but it borders on financial advice so a financial planner could provide this – but may not be the most suitable in this situation. A mortgage broker may be the best bet if your goals centre around property.

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    Thanks Terryw,

    Terryw et al, what are your thoughts on an “Expression of Interest” or “Invitation to deal” letter? Would an “offer” in this form be binding?

    Also, putting myself in the Vendors shoes, would you see a verbal offer as serious and genuine as an offer in writing?

    Depends on the wording of the content rather than the title of the document. Under contract law an offer once accepted can become a contract. And a contract can be oral. But for a contract relating to land to be binding it has to be in writing – could be an informal back of the envelope type writing, a formal contract is not really needed.

    So best to seek legal advice on your document before submitting. It would probably be highly unlikely that some would consider your offer a binding contract, but still a risk.

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    Be careful, your written offer may amount to a contract if the other person accepts. Best to use a solicitor to get legal advice.

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    To terryw, I can see that the CG exemption can be a huge benefit but many of the books I’ve read pitch the “never sell” idea as the answer to avoiding capital gains tax on IPs. If we’re not planning to sell anytime soon is there any benefit to be had in putting the property in a trust and claiming the deductions of a normal IP, building a carry-forwardable loss, and allowing distribution of future capital gains? I understand we can do this provided we rent the property from the trust at a commercial rate.)

    In my experience there are few people who never sell. A property will change hands eventually, even trusts end in 80 years.Buying in a trust now will mean always subjecct to CGT, even if you live there, land tax in most states and eventually the property will be positive geared so you will be paying tax on something you wouldn’t otherwise. Assuming you do rent from the trust the trust will need other income to offset the loss or there will be no benefit.

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    Be careful in using cash. Once used it will be tied up and there are tax consequences. Get some legal advice on some related party loan strategies so you could still avoid the banks but use the cash and not suffer the tax consequences. Asset protection is another bonus.

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    Bending the truth is a euphamision for fraud usually. best not to committ a crime if possible.

    Depending on the situation it would be best not to use the word ‘development’ anywhere – such as in company names, email addresses etc.
    Avoid getting too many properties in your own name – I just had one bank reject a client as a residential lender because the client owned 22 properties. They wanted it to go via their commericial lending.

    Don’t put down trust assets on your personal liability statements – as they are not your assets.

    Beware of the ownership structure set up. You want to limit personal guarantees. You don’t want spouses involved, where possible. You wouldn’t want to cross collateralise property either. Think that if the development fails what can you lose sort of thing. Use strategies to improve asset protection.

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    I would only reccomend using a company in limited situations, if you have used up the land tax threshold for example. Loss of the CGT 50% discount means a company could pay up to 6% more tax than a person on the top tax rate.

    For the first one I would be inclined for personal name, perhaps incorporating some borrowing strategies to increase asset protection.

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    There is a potential way around this by proper structuring and it would involve making a gift to a discretionary trust and then borrowing it back to purchase property in your own name. Dont do this without legal advice though as many issues involved.

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    Yes thanks guys, I am a solicitor, but concentrate of estate planning law, asset protection and structures.

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    I would:

    1. Bloody oath
    2. Rents go up as do property values. Main residences are generally tax exempt – what other investment can get you this?
    3. read 2.
    4. Consider borrowing capacity for now and the future. Go For a loan as high as possible, up to 80%. This could be split into an IO loan with offset and a separate LOC for further investments, but this would depend on how much cash you have and the size of the property.

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