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Sooshie
If the business has gone into administration, then the director or owner will no longer have any control over teh company. An administrator would have been appointed and they are teh ones that make all the decisions from the time of their appointment.
If is was possible to nominate another purchaser, I think the administrator would have to do it. They may agree to do so if it would generate some money for creditors.
But in Victoria it is obly possible to nominate someone without incurring double stamp duty, if you had a written agreement with them prior to the signing of the original contract.
And I beleive that the law has recently chaged and that it may not even be possible to do this any more. ie double stamp duty will be payable.
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I was looking at doing this a few years ago and had estimates from $15,000 to $20,000. You may save if there are materials from teh old house you can actually sell.
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Jack
I understand that this is not possible, even if you have and/or nominee, without incurring double stamp duty (in NSW anyway). i have done in in Vic, but have heard the laws have changed and it is not possible down there either.
With options I think they have to be stamped by the land titles office to make them a legal document and that stamp duty is payable on this. But not sure how much or how it is calculated.
I have written options in VIc and haven’t had them stamped. I was not concerned with it too much as I was selling it not buying it.
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Ken
I think you’ll find more info at http://www.navra.com.au. There is an article somewhere there called ‘cashbonds’.
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I was trying to do this in Victoria and had to have another contract drawn up. In the end I never went thru with it.
You also must get finance arranged just in case they don’t settle (for whatever reason) on the same day. If the vendor give a notice to recind, you will only have 14 days to settle, and this is not enought time for a bank to do it.
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Hi Jas
The agency has tracked down the tenants mother and she won’t give out his address, but has said he collects mail from there. So the have sent letters asking him to pay etc. Now they have asked me to pay $450 so they can serve a summons on him. This money would be tacked onto the amount he owes me and the would also recover this from him. I didn’t like the idea of doing this and am just waiting to see if he will respond.
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Smoke
It depend on when you signed the contract. If it is more than 12 to 18 months ago, then yes you can get a loan based on valuation with a standard bank at standard rates. And this is with LMI approval.
If it is a shorter settlement, then you can still do it, but rates will be higher as we will have to go to smaller lenders or private funds.
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Plenty mate. Try units in Campbelltown or Cabramatta. prices start around $140,000. late last year I went to an auction in Maquarie fields -ex housing commisison 3 br house went for $150,000. Aound the blacktown area you can get houses for about $200K still.
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D
Watch out for fixed rates. The break costs can be very high. You never know when you may want to refiance to withdraw extra equity or when you may even sell a property.
It looks like Combank is trying to cross collateralise your loans. Maybe a better way would be to withdraw some equity form you land as the LVRs are low. You could then use this as deposit and get a 90 or 95% loan for your IP. This gives you greater flexibility in the future.
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Leigh
A good example would be if you had sold a property and had a capital gain. Depending on the size of the gain and the size of your other loans, pre paying hte interest could wipe out paying any tax on the capital gain.
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Fullout
Yes you will have to pay stamp duty and CGT on land.
You can try and sell the land you have purchased before settlement, but I don’t know about the deposit. If you are using a real estate agent, you won’t be able to get the new buyers deposit until settlement as it must go into their trust account. I don’t know what happens if you are selling it without an agent.
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JellyB
That happens sometimes. Bank (or LMI) is worried about having too many units in the one block. It increases their risk. Maybe there are other units in the block with the same bank as well?
You could just ask for an increase in your loan, take out the extra funds and go to a different bank using those funds as deposit.
That’s a good return too so maybe the bank is only taking a much lower rent into account in the serviceability test.
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Polaris
If you go for the cheaper end, you could go very far using your your own money, then getting a large deposit from the wrapee which replaces most of your deposit. You keep saving in the meantime to help you go a bit further.
Mathew, no offence taken. I too have heard that it is not legal to do installment contracts using IO loans. But I don’t know where this idea comes from. My wrap contracts say nothing about it.
Another point, my VIC installment contracts say all of the wrappee’s repayment to me (wraper) must be paid off my loan. ie I am not allowed to pay the minimum and keep the difference. Does anyone know anything about this?
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here is another angle on Options.
A client of mine bought a rental property about 2 years ago for $228K. A developer has purchased an option for this property with a strike price of $1mil. Epxiring in one year. He has options on a number of houses in a row, and has submitted DA approvals etc to council for some big units for the site. This developer has aparently already sold the whole lot to another developer and has made about $9mil profit. And he doens’t even own it yet!
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I agree with Willi
I do 5 years leases with an option to purchase anytime – the strike price is set at 20% more than market price and this decreases like a PI loan (tho more slowly)(I now think this may be too generous). I get a option fee upfront of $3000 to $4000 and get about 40% more rent than market value. This generates a good +ve cashflow and a capital gain when they cash me out. If they move out, the lose the option fee and I get to keep the house and do it again at higher rates.
So if you want to do a sandwich option you could find someone like me, take an option on their property and then you sell an option at a higher price with higher rent and a higher strike price.
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Polaris
You would be mainly marketing to people who can not qualify for bank finance.
I can see the potential of Sandwich lease options!
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Matthew
I think wrap is a broad term referring to both. At first I couldn’t understand why some people called LOs wraps as well. I don’t think you will find ‘wrap’ used on any legal documents. I think ‘Installment Contract’ or ‘Vendor Terms contract’ would be more accurate for what you refer to as wrap.
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Polaris
I think I understand what you are saying? Sometimes these things are difficult to explain in words!
The person selling an option on their property is, I beleive, not doing it because they want to sell it quickly. it will be actually slower than if they just sold it outright. I think they would be doing it because they wanted a higher price and/or they were getting an option fee which they get to keep if the buyer doesn’t take up the option.
Banks will not use future equity from an option as collateral as they would be unable to put a mortgage over it.
If you are doing a sandwich lease option it would be better to target investors that are renting out there property. Maybe they are sick of having a high turn over of tenants, want to sell the property, but can’t find anyone. You come along and say you will buy it for the price they are asking, but can’t pay yet. So you give them a small fee now, and teh rest in say 2 years. In the meantime you will rent the place and pay for everything. That would sound like a good deal to them maybe.
An owner occupier would have to move out and rent elsewhere until you purchased the property and the funds were released to them.
Hope this helps?
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Yep. Anything related to the earning of income. Computer, Internet connection (for research etc), study courses, books, street directory, travel to see property or for study or to see accountant etc. Virtually everything!
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Gerard
Mezz is risky and the rates are usually only 15 to 20%. You could make more by investing this in deposits for wraps!
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